Sniper Country Duty Roster collective wisdom
Great site guys! It's like getting Tactical Shooter
every day. I would like to solicit opinions or review coments on the Eagle
and Blackhawk drag bags. Does anyone have any experience with both of the
bags? i.s seen both at a conference or symposium and was able to compare
them? I'm close to buying and would like one last check. Thanks.
Clearwater, FL USA - Monday, December 14, 1998 at 21:35:07 (EST)
Bill- I have had both bags and definitely prefer the Eagle. They
are both decent but the Eagle seems to show better production techniques.
USA - Tuesday, December 15, 1998 at 08:21:29 (EST)
On eagle drag bags. We had eagles at the National Guard sniper course
and after 5 years of abuse from students the only thing we ever had go
bad on them was that the main zipper got out of wack on 8 out of 30 of
them. Eagle has a lifetime warrenty so I wouldn't sweat that. Sniper trivia...
The Eagle bag was designed by the USMC Scout-Sniper Instructor School staff
USA - Tuesday, December 15, 1998 at 10:53:45 (EST)
3. Are drag bags actually used on a mission, or just for carry purposes?
USA - Sunday, January 03, 1999 at 13:03:42 (EST)
Drag bag: Depends on who you talk to. From what I understand some
instructors hate them. If you get a good one, it can replace the ruck on
short missions, but at the same time it'll weigh a ton. I used to prefer
the simple drag bag that allows no more gear than a rifle and data books.
I am currently reviewing a bag that allows you to carry spotting scope,
tripod, maps, and other essentials I would have put in a ruck. It even
straps on like a ruck but this high "stick" does present the problem of
TARGET indicator. Probably not so much an issue in LE. The all purpose
drag bag does have the advantage of always being with you, where as the
temptation is to cache the ruck during a stalk. Anyway, the short of it
is YES. It is taken on the mission.
USA - Monday, January 04, 1999 at 17:12:46 (EST)
Drag Bags: The smaller and lighter the better. I personally have
a love/hate relationship with them. I love them on a classic stalk, like
in a school situation. So much easier to crawl. Real world though I DO
NOT like having my rifle in a bag. Then there is the spotter who has an
M203, there is the 25lb radio, batteries, binos, NODs, spotter scope, MELIOS,
and other ass't, but all important crap (like 5.56mm, 40mm, grenades, smoke,
claymore, and the LBV that it hangs off, etc...) I have an small ruck that
I g'd up just to tote around some of that junk on a stalk. Hell, I often
think that the ghillie itself is a viscious joke that the Scotts have been
laughing hystericaly about behind their kilts since WWI. But that is another
piece of heresy for another day.
Ed Engler <Ed_Engler@softhome.net>
CP Greaves, ROK - Tuesday, January 05, 1999 at 05:19:24 (EST)
After cruising thru some of the other sites SC has links to, I see
that drag bags aren't cheap !!! Why not use a military drop bag and save
yourself some $$$$$$ ?? I think Brigade Quartermaster has them for about
$40 and then you can modify to suit your needs. I suppose if your dragbag
has to perform double duty and be a shooting mat also then you might have
a problem but ...over at Ft Benning they have some at "Ranger Rags" (surplus
store) and they run $15-25. Made of canvas, heavy canvas, and has a felt
inner padding. Just a thought, may not be as "cute - high speed" as some
of those bags but it darn sure works !!
Awake in, AL USA - Friday, January 08, 1999 at 04:14:26 (EST)
Speaking of Drag bags: We will have a review of London Bridge Trading
Company's LBT-1655 and LBT-0110 drag bags in a few weeks, maybe less. Also
look for our review of Eagles' shooting matt/drag bag which should appear
All are great products. But as you pointed out, they are not cheap.
On the other hand they do have unique features that would be hard to duplicate
from scratch, the least being the quality of the stitching. By the time
you were done, you might find the money invested was equal to the price
of one of these bags! That being said, you can make a drag bag with a little
effort. It ain't all that tough. Home built units usually lack external
and internal pockets for storage of gear, but they do serve their primary
role well, that of transporting the sniper rifle across rough terrain.
What you get with a quality commercial drag bag purchased from a reputable
company is a well constructed piece of gear that will last a lifetime.
It will have a lot of well thought out features that allow you (especially
police snipers) to store everything you need for a call out or short duration
mission in one well organized sack. These bags are far superior to a padded
canvas sock or a modified gun case. They ain't cheap...but in consolation,
you do get what you pay for.
Commercial bags give you two basic choices. A simply and sturdy bag
to transport the weapon, OR an elaborate back pack that will allow you
to transport the weapon in addition to all the ancillary gear - food, scope,
tripod, ammo, binos, water, ad nausea. You have to decide what you need
before the final purchase. Humping a ruck and a drag bag is perfectly acceptable,
but sometimes having a bag that can carry it all while leaving your hands
free to carry a carbine or navigate mountainous terrain is pretty nice
too. For police, having it all in one organized bag sure beats the heck
out of taking the weapon in a hard case and having all the other gear in
a separate carry all. One thing that does not work: using a basic drag
bag as a carry all. There is no simple way to attach all the gear you would
like to bring along to a bag with out extra compartments. You just can
not have it both ways. Stuffing the gear in the main compartment with the
rifle is also problematic as it can shift and beat the rifle up pretty
good. For example, sticking your spotting scope in with the rifle is asking
for trouble. Tying it outside just gets it lost. You NEED that external
USA - Friday, January 08, 1999 at 10:01:00 (EST)
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