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Shooting - Slings:


Gooch:

I directed this to you because you mentioned "non standard" shooting positions in a recent post. This caught my attention because all of my precious little shooting experience has been off of a bench or prone w/ bipod or bag. Don't get me wrong. This is great, but lately I thought I should learn standing, sitting, and prone w/ sling, perhaps.
So, I saw a guy using one of these cuff-style slings at one of the matches. I got one thinking it would be easier to manipulate than a mil style sling.It came just yesterday. Also, I've talked via email to a man who makes sling called a Ching sling. It seems, at first glance, to be a good concept. I'm considering one of these as well.

In other words, practice w/ a sling, practice stand/sit/kneel, as well as prone. These may not be necessarily non-standard but your reference to it brought this whole subject of different positions to mind. I want to learn to use the sling,and find a reference source to practice other shooting positions. Do you have any advice or suggestions?
 
Jeff A. <d1k2l3@aol.com>
Smyrna, Ga. USA - Friday, November 06, 1998 at 13:06:25 (EST) 


Jeff: The Ching sling is a handy device, and Eric Ching is a good guy.
I think that the sling you want depends on your needs. If you're doing long-range shooting you want something like the Turner slings. The Ching sling is a fast, convenient sling for general field use. The Ching sling, like the CW sling, requires a third sling mounting point, usually just ahead of the magazine/floorplate, and this can be a minor problem if your rifle uses detachable magazines.
You won't see Ching slings used in long-range shooting matches, and you won't see many hunters hooking up their slings to their match coats. So really the answer is probably the one most common in Duty Roster, "What do you want to do with it?"

Dave <dave@broadsword.com>
San Jose, CA USA - Friday, November 06, 1998 at 14:46:33 (EST) 


Jeff.

The M1907 MRT sling can be a bear to use if you haven't had a couple of classes on it but I am a big beleiver in it. ANother good sling is the issue nylon M14 sling and the USMC issue cotton M16A2 sling. The only problem withthe last two is that the sling must be disconnected from the rear sling swivel before a loop sling can be put on.

It is a violation of the laws of nature to try an tell you how to use any of these things over this web page. You might end up hurting yourself or others if I were to try that. If Marius would allow we could put together a page of illustrations showing how to use these slings. I think I have pictures and illustrations that show it clear enough.

Gooch <gooch@stormmountain.com>
USA - Friday, November 06, 1998 at 16:36:48 (EST) 


On the proper use of the sling, go to Fulton Armory's web site.

Roy out.
Roy <thomason@cos.saic.com>
CO USA - Monday, November 09, 1998 at 11:49:13 (EST) 


http://www.fulton-armory.com/slinguse.htm


6. Haven't read much about ideal rifle sling for practical uses other than carry purposes.

Bolt <mbolt34547@aol.com>
USA - Wednesday, December 30, 1998 at 20:27:18 (EST) 


"6. Haven't read much about ideal rifle sling for practical uses other than carry purposes."
That's because there ain't one. A great target sling like the turner or 1907 leather sling is not so great in wet field conditions. Leather can deteriorate pretty fast. Web slings on the other hand can stretch pretty badly. The British sniper rifle was supplied with a leather copy of the 1907 but tossed it for a web one. Again, it becomes a matter of preference. BUT I have to say this, you NEVER use the sling to carry that rifle! It goes under your arm or in the drag bag! It is even worse for hunters. How many guys lose a deer because that rifle was slung when it should have been in hand?
Scott <xring>
USA - Thursday, December 31, 1998 at 16:25:15 (EST) 
Scott, got the message, all slings are up for sale. Do you also remove the swivel studs? What do you fill the holes with?

Bolt <mbolt34547@aol.com>
USA - Sunday, January 03, 1999 at 13:03:42 (EST) 


Bolt! Don't SELL all your slings! Just don't use them to haul the rifle around aimlessly with. hmm..that was not good grammer was it? Anyway, a good sling can be used for position shooting. You needn't toss it out. My point was that (especially hunters and infantry types) you do not want to sling carry the rifle if you plan on actually taking game (or gomers). They too follow Murphy's law and will jump up the second you sling that rifle!

Scott <xring@voicenet.com>
USA - Monday, January 04, 1999 at 17:12:46 (EST) 


Scott, please clarify...are you saying not to use a sling or not to use a carry strap? I actually find a sling rather helpful when shooting from unusual positions.

Rich <dick2@clarkston.com>
WA USA - Monday, January 04, 1999 at 17:32:53 (EST) 


Dick, I was saying don't use a sling FOR a carry strap. Use it only for position shooting and not to haul the rifle with. that help?
Scott <xring>
USA - Tuesday, January 05, 1999 at 16:41:31 (EST) 
To Highpower Service Rifle shooters: I find myself in a position to buy a Sling for an AR-15 and don't know alot about them. I would like to buy a match sling but don't know where to look. The only thing I know is not to buy a nylon or any other strechable style sling. Any discussion on slings would be appreciated.

Bill <billmohr@borg.com>
Central , Ny, USA - Thursday, January 28, 1999 at 05:45:59 (ZULU) 


Re: Service rifle sling

Bill,
Do not toss the notion of not using the nylon/cloth slings. If you are a current high power/long range shooter, then you need no introduction to Mitchell Maxbury. He is a High Master in each catagory and has done a lot of winning over the years in national level competition. His sling?.....just a plain military nylon type. Easy to use, infinitely adjustable, inexpensive, highly reliable, etc.

You can check out Fulton Armory or Champions Choice's site (which is not coming up at the moment). Bill Wylde can point you in the right direction as to what is popular.
Ron N.
Ron N. <rcn8@accnorwalk.com>
USA - Thursday, January 28, 1999 at 12:03:43 (ZULU) 


Bill M,

Rons got a good point with Maxbury, use what works man. I have used a buncha slings (and swivels) from most of the "Names" and the military surplus jobbies too. The Leather vs. Synthetic slings debate could go on almost as long as Remington vs Sav'age tactical rifles I'll bet.

Mike M.'s Sling (The Un-Dude) is about the most versatile that I've seen or used to date. The Q-D buckle allows for a switch to a cuff-type in nano-seconds. (Hint: the cuff can be fixed to a tac jacket or vest), its faster to adjust, wide enough for comfortable carry, and you can "lock down" on it as well as any other with no fear about the buckle.

peteR
peteR <PNGREIFF@AOL.COM>
WARM TODAY, bY-gAwD, USA - Thursday, January 28, 1999 at 13:39:17 (ZULU) 


Re: SR slings

Bill,

For the latest and greatest in SR slings, you might make a pass at the boyz on <guntalk.shooters.com/highpower>. You will find a lot of AR SR&MR activity there. I've not shot SR for so long that my mildew resistant sling has mold all over it!
Bill Wylde <k9wxr@rr1.net>
Chilly - SE, IL, USA - Thursday, January 28, 1999 at 14:59:15 (ZULU) 


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