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Same here. Better late than never. Happy New Year too.

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Saturday, December 26, 2015, at 12:11:15 (ZULU)


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Gaithersburg, Merryland, Usa - Saturday, December 26, 2015, at 16:39:51 (ZULU)


I just dragged the big rifle out for the first time in two years (EEK!)  I had a ferocious trigger yank/shoulder throw, but it did seem to be consistent.  I fired some Black Hills Match and some reloads and the vertical drop seemed the same as a new load I was trying.

For those who might be hurting for powder selection, AR-Comp seems to be a very good thing.  40.5 gr behind the 175 SMK in LC brass (WLR primer) shot less than 1/2 MOA with about the same drop as the Black Hills version.  I didn't chrono this lot, but a lot I did for speed testing was very consistent.

Happy New Year.

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Tuesday, December 29, 2015, at 22:37:35 (ZULU)


I just dragged the big rifle out for the first time in two years (EEK!)  I had a ferocious trigger yank/shoulder throw, but it did seem to be consistent.  I fired some Black Hills Match and some reloads and the vertical drop seemed the same as a new load I was trying.

For those who might be hurting for powder selection, AR-Comp seems to be a very good thing.  40.5 gr behind the 175 SMK in LC brass (WLR primer) shot less than 1/2 MOA with about the same drop as the Black Hills version.  I didn't chrono this lot, but a lot I did for speed testing was very consistent.

Happy New Year.

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Tuesday, December 29, 2015, at 22:37:35 (ZULU)


Merry Christmas and Happy New Years from Japan!

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Iwakuni, Japan - Friday, January 1, 2016, at 08:22:15 (ZULU)


Broke out the GAP M40A1 clone last week, still shoots.  Cold bore was 3/4" out of the group(ragged hole), was annoyed.  I'll tough it out.  S/F....Ken M

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Wednesday, May 4, 2016, at 23:35:29 (ZULU)


Well, how's that for an interesting turn of events?  With the latest FBI statements, I'm sure somebody wants to say something.  To someone.

For what is the point of laws and rules?

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Winnipeg, Mb., Canada - Wednesday, July 6, 2016, at 15:18:41 (ZULU)



Meowski...

I've been away for a long time, and this site has been on my mind lately.

Life has been hard and I haven't been shooting as much as I would like.

Seems like all the guys are gone - I see only a post every few months.

If any of you guys are on facebook, I have a few pages there.

https://www.facebook.com/cat.shooter

https://www.facebook.com/paul.coburn.716

https://www.facebook.com/groups/Unertl.Scopes/

https://www.facebook.com/groups/WoodchucksandGroundhogs/

Contact me through facebook sometime.

Be safe.

CatShooter.

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Spring has sprung, da' creek has riz, I wonder where dem kitties is? - Wednesday, August 10, 2016, at 15:19:26 (ZULU)


Actually, yeah, some of us still linger ;-)

But I don't "do" facebook.

If anyone wants to get ahold of me, use the Bravo underscore 762 at yahoooooey dit com addy.

And yeah, this place has kinda died off..... which is really sad.

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Wednesday, August 10, 2016, at 21:56:27 (ZULU)


Hey, ya bum... how are you.

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Spring has sprung, Da' creek has riz, I wonder where dem kitties is? - Thursday, August 11, 2016, at 00:35:43 (ZULU)


The rumors of my demise have been greatly exagerated!

I'm alive, and likely always will be ;-)

Just trying to make it day to day, for another 157 days or so. Got big plans, but time isn't on my side right now.

On the good side, I still get out and shoot, just not quite as often as I used to.

I hope you're in an area with an abundance of ammo AND kitties!

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Friday, August 12, 2016, at 20:43:34 (ZULU)


Subject: Hey guys and gals!
Hey all you old farts, of which I'm probably #1! Well I might not post much but I do stop in daily. Shooting doesn't get much time anymore, but do get out when I can!

Sarge

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Southern Area 51, USA - Saturday, August 13, 2016, at 00:09:29 (ZULU)


Good to see you again Sarge!

Hope everything is going great with you too, and that's a fact!

One of my goals for this year was to drop an 857D in my truck, but with the unexpected expenses that has been pushed to 2017. Hopefully I'll need to get with you about that installation.

I'm pretty sure I've found a way to remote-mount the face plate into an overhead console. Just have to "modify" the console housing.

Sure do miss being out there at the school. Not having a for-real vacation for this many years has be completely demotivated.

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Tuesday, August 16, 2016, at 18:12:44 (ZULU)


What can we do to revive this place?

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Newberg, OR, - Wednesday, August 17, 2016, at 16:17:02 (ZULU)


Sarge, Bravo, Pablito....good to see youse guys are still all kickin'.Did I miss any of the "old guard"? If I did, my apologies.

What have you been up to?

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Newberg, OR, - Wednesday, August 17, 2016, at 16:20:43 (ZULU)



"What can we do to revive this place?"

Preparing to shock, clear!

--------------------------------

I think it is tough - all over the internet, shooting forums are going down hill - they are being taken over by millennials.

6 or 8 years ago, Accurateshooting.com used to be great... top guys who were gunsmiths, ballistic guys, etc...

... now, they have threads about the best way to clean your bore... and the thread runs for weeks (Gag).

I "think", that back in the good ol' days (the 90's), shooters were a serious group of folks that loved the sport and were dedicated to it.

But 9/11 changed that, and a lot of new people wanted to get a gun, and as Martha Stewart always says, "... and that is a good thing."

But, after Obamy got elected, the masses swarmed and surged and bought everything that even looked like an AR, and they bought silly little hand guns, cuz it was cool... and now they swamp the forum boards like the Bubonic Plague.

I am not against them buying guns (that is good), but they think that after a month, they are experts on the boards, and the really bright guys leave.

So, I don't know.  :(((((

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Spring has sprung, da' creek has riz, I wonder where dem kitties is? - Thursday, August 18, 2016, at 20:51:17 (ZULU)


What a shock.  I check Sniper Country and it’s like old home week.  Is Major Joe still around?  Great to see CatShooter again.  If you stick around maybe some life will return to our favorite shooting board.

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OK, - Sunday, August 21, 2016, at 19:29:28 (ZULU)



Put out some "Meow-mix" and cat-nip to draw in some targets.

Joe is on FB and we chat often... I'll see if I can tempt him with a bacon cheeseburger, and a Mogan-tani (DRLJ).

Meowski.

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Spring has sprung, Da' creek has riz, I wonder where dem kitties is? - Monday, August 22, 2016, at 12:12:09 (ZULU)


And I'm baaaaaaaack!

Damn, I really miss this place.  I HATE facebook, but my dearly departed put it up, so it is something of a memorial. Plus, a slightly "better" place for politics or econo-country:-))

I need to read it forward yet and then say hello (have not --just logged on).

But:  I have taken the AR10 concept down a few roads and will be posting all the details, good and bad.  First thing though:  IF you are thinking, do NOT jump in until you place a G2 next to anything you thought you wanted first---for a thorough comparison.  The engineering and ergonomics ought to change your mind.  

Peanut update: Junior year and she drives a Monte SS (into things, but we are working on sheet metal issues)---almost a grown up:-))  16 years ago, I prayed to be able to say all that!

Now for some catch up reading!

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EC, WI, USA - Monday, August 22, 2016, at 14:16:53 (ZULU)


Finally, a pulse!!!!

Good to see, really.  Especially with all the censorship and crap that happens 'in that other place' and all, too.

Kick it up a notch, fella's.

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Winnipeg, Mb., Canada - Monday, August 22, 2016, at 18:52:10 (ZULU)



I quit Snipershide several years ago when the signal to noise ratio grew intolerably low. I see Joe on Facebook - and I pay attention to what he says, and Kitty Wacker. Still doing some shooting, and some teaching from time to time. Good to see some familiar names here.

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Spring Branch, TX, Northern Occupied Territory of Mexico - Monday, August 22, 2016, at 19:30:57 (ZULU)



Looks like everyone is coming together around the fire again.  The last time the roster looked like this, things looked a lot better than they do today.

Things are a lot different since I visited last!  Followed relational changes and employment opportunities to AZ, then TX, and then AZ again.  New wife (x2), on #3 and third time is apparently the charm.  Two teenage stepkids that have so far responded well to a step dad and are making me proud.  

Did get to meet and spend some time with Stan and his wife, at a mutual friend's wedding.....that was worth the price of admission for sure!

Have spent a few occasions putting both bullets and/or beverages downrange with Joe M and Morgue over the last few years.

Took some more Kyuki Do and Krav Maga classes.  Filled up the gunsafe including various combinations of AR and a Bohica. My old Savage 110FP that I learned to load for and shoot here, was sold long ago.  My wife got me a replacement primary bolt stick though.....a Savage 10FP Hog Hunter.  I've got a one piece Blackhawk base on it with Burris Xtreme rings, and a Tabasco SS 10x42 on it.  It shoots4 lights out! My latest hobby is learning how to fly in case we need to evacuate by air.....or we need to conduct parachute drops.  ;-)

This forum may prove to be more accessible, and more secure, than that "other" social media site......

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AZ, USA - Monday, August 22, 2016, at 21:02:50 (ZULU)


Still above the dirt in Halifax. Multi-year medical saga that isn't completely finished yet, but headed in the right direction.  Hurry up and wait in the "free" Canadian healthcare system.

Reworked two sticks for DBM operation.

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halifax, nova scotia, canada - Monday, August 22, 2016, at 22:11:39 (ZULU)


Cat Punisher, you know, I'd never thought about the reason for the massive influx of doofuses swarming the channel. What you said makes perfect sense though.... I knew some folks like that myself. They came asking what they should buy, coming from backgrounds like "my wife has never allowed me to have a gun in the house so I don't have any". Seriously. Wouldn't surprise me if they were the same goofballs that were spamming the channel so much that I just gave up for a bit.

BUT HERE'S TO 'OUT OF THE ASHES'!

And everyone: don't let Joe's recommendation of the G2 pass you by. It's literally the first thing that has tempted me back into DI systems. Don't get me wrong, I'm not 100% convinced myself yet, but if I'm willing to spend my money on it then you can take it as at least somewhat of "I have reason to believe" it's just that good.

Besides, Joe's is impressive!

And dang good to hear something out of you Geoff! To quote that line from office space, "the pleasure is all on this side of the table, trust me" ;-) I'm just glad to see you finally getting some of what you deserve!

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Tuesday, August 23, 2016, at 17:19:56 (ZULU)


DPMS G2:  I just bought the "Recon" version a few hours ago.  This one is coming apart upon receipt:-))

I have convinced myself that a battle rifle and a carbine are two different pieces of kit.  I have this awesome IOR Pitbull 1, or 6x Mil/ Mil scope for what was supposed to be a dual role stick--handy carbine using the 1x and dot as a reflex (more on that later) and the 6x Mil-tree for good old fashioned precision shots.  All that effort in weight reduction was negated by placing that glass anchor on top of 25 rd mags.  The 6.8 lb AP4 now wears an aimpoint T2, and rocks.  Handy, lively is what it is, and hammers down 308.  

The IOR?  Not figuring that one out was a DUH on me.  I thought it pretty cool that I could adjust the diopter and set my prescription on the scope, so I did.  Yup, with one eye open, it WAS cool.  But, in the 1x mode, binocular vision was a mash up of clarity and blur that seemed to "force" a dominate eye "all in" on the tube, absolutely ruining the reflex technique in stride.  Plus, it was a fat ass, and this "carbine" is planned to be an M4 on a diet that issues hammers instead of love taps.  Now, it is, once again.  I really love this rifle.  It is one year old now, and hasn't been cleaned 'cept a bore punch for dust prior to more filth.  Utter, absolute reliability using hornady factory 168 amax and some bravo reloads of the same.  The 147 fodder cleaned out the 90 yard apple tree with some fun offhand plinking.  Round count is still low, upper 400s I think.  

So the new G2 will bear that IOR and a bipod:-))  I like the SASS concept, but I think it could be "handier" than the 18" with the PRS boat anchor stock.  Give me a few months, I will let you know!

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Tuesday, August 23, 2016, at 21:38:10 (ZULU)


Look what the cat dragged in...

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space coast , fl, USA - Wednesday, August 24, 2016, at 01:30:35 (ZULU)



It would be easy for me to take credit for the quality of ammo I produce, and it'd probably inflate my ego a bit too, but I won't take credit for what I didn't invent. Besides, I've learned the hard way what happens when I choose to believe my own press releases, and it's not what I prefer to experience again.

The methodology I use is 100% from the Kittywhacker, he lined me out - with everything I needed to buy and how I needed to use it - so long ago I don't remember what it was like before that. The only thing I've "improved" on since then is how I clean my brass, and I got a big chunk of that from him too.

As far as my personal inclination to do things precisely, accurately, and pefectly, that's all God.

I don't believe that the Kittywhacker is going to have any problem with sharing the credit, because I'm actually making him share credit with someone OLDER than himself, and finding someone that old is a difficult task!

Anyone heard from Wes Howe? I really wondering how he's doing.

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Wednesday, August 24, 2016, at 17:43:12 (ZULU)


Found my password :)

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Thursday, August 25, 2016, at 01:00:45 (ZULU)



God Almighty... it's a rising from "da' dead"...

What have you'se guys been up to?

I am suing Lyman (the loading tool company)... not much else.

Ruggus Rattus is in the navy - running the reactors on nuclear submarines.

My birthday is coming up soon - I'll be 917 (again!!)

Hey, Boltster... ¿Qué pasó?

Meowski.

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Spring has sprung, Da' creek has riz, I wonder where dem kitties is? - Thursday, August 25, 2016, at 13:57:22 (ZULU)



Gargoyle !!!

A Round of drinks for the House !!

Glad to see ya's makin a return.As it was said earlier been thinkin of ya's and hopin all ya are doin ok along with weathering the Liberal BS storm.Also hope ya all aint goin broke from throwin bricks at the tv and or sound system from all the BS thats hittin the media as of late.

Life has been interestin,Moved a few times,killed a desktop pc and a laptop Lost password and just gettin around to using new one.

New location is nice but its a haul to go anywhere.

Was getting some regular trigger time untill a misunderstanding with the landlords daughter about holes in a silage bag killed the shooting. I technically can still shoot here but choose not too.

It a matter of the principle. I was deer hunting the north side of the bag and the holes were on the south side of the bag. I guess that I make one helluva .308 load.

Glad to see this place is pickin up.

UnPat

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Thursday, August 25, 2016, at 19:00:02 (ZULU)


Welcome, UnPat.

A quiz for the house: Who said (just before a pistol fight)"Bartender, a round of cervezas for my amigos, and if I'm dead, put it on my tab."

Meowski ;)))

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Spring has sprung, Da' creek has riz, I wonder where dem kitties is? - Thursday, August 25, 2016, at 20:29:21 (ZULU)


Sláinte Kitty wacker!

No idea on the quiz,but since the terms "amigo and cervesas" were used the person was in the south western part of the US,and because ya wrote it in english and not spanish I would rule out Billy the Kid. He was fond of speaking spanish.

Special shoutout to Joe S from Da Burg area Pa:

Thanx so much for the relaoding tips and pushin to get me into it.

I now have a new personal best.  18lb yote pup at 425 yrds.One and done neck shot,just below the ear. 2 weeks before that I drilled his mama at 400.Really doubting if I could have gotten them on factory stuff.

DPMS and PRS stock: Very sexy but very heavy.

I am still running my LR-308 with the PRS.

UnPat

 

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stixville, wi, - Thursday, August 25, 2016, at 21:13:46 (ZULU)


Well it has been a while, time flies!  Life is good, work is still groovy here in Florida.  Been busy with additions, there is now a Mrs. JR, found a keeper.  Daughter Aydan just turning 13 in a month, sharp as a whip, and our wee laddies Liam (22mo) and Declan (3mo)..  With the two dogs it's a houseful, never a dull moment.  

Been away from about all of the forums for a while now, they got too popular, crowded, boring, like a constant sales pitch.  Glad to see the rosterfarians coming home, even if just to hear how everyone's doing these days.  

Later

JR    

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Space Coast, FL, USA - Thursday, August 25, 2016, at 22:14:15 (ZULU)


Boltster!

Good to see you among the living!

I think of you every time I rip a reel apart for service ;-)

And the Kittywhacker said

"it's a rising from "da' dead"..."

Was there any misunderstanding when I said

"Preparing to shock, clear!"

HA! DOUBLE HA!

You did a good thing Dudeski!

No idea on your quote though.....

JR, good to see you too! You still working for the dark side?

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Friday, August 26, 2016, at 17:59:41 (ZULU)


Lito:

re: quote

Google-foo

"NICS" - Agent Mike Franks.  S09E01  “Nature of the Beast”

The full quote was: "Cervezas for my amigos. If I’m dead, put it on my tab, Probie."

http://tvgoodness.tumblr.com/post/10481631772/what-they-said-favorite-quotes-from-ncis-nature

http://www.springfieldspringfield.co.uk/view_episode_scripts.php?tv-show=ncis&episode=s09e01

I'm a big fan of the show.

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Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada - Monday, August 29, 2016, at 03:50:54 (ZULU)


Too bad Cote de Pablo left. Gotta love a gal thats easy on the eyes,plays with knives and guns.

Lost interest in the show after she left.

UnPat

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sixville, wi, - Monday, August 29, 2016, at 09:14:22 (ZULU)



UnPat...

Hot chicks that carry guns - what could be better?

Cote's replacement, "Bishop" is pretty hot too.

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Spring has sprung, Da' creek has riz, I wonder where dem kitties is? - Monday, August 29, 2016, at 15:36:42 (ZULU)


I got a weird question for you guys about "Local Gun Stores" (LGS).

I don't get to mine very often, cuz I mostly buy primers and powder stuff, and they have always had terrible selections.  They will have pistol primers and 50 BMG powder and the next time, rifle primers and 400 pounds of Bullseye... cuz no one in the store knows doodley squat about loading.

Well... I went to mine yesterday, and they had changed a lot since I was their last.

When I was a pup, I worked in an LGS for 4 years while I went to college at night.

It was the most fun'est job I have had in my life.  Aside of doing stuff with guns, the guys I worked with were a freakin' riot.  It was like workin' at "Laugh in" (the TV show from the 70's).

All of them were really bright, had a great sense of humor, and we all shot together on weekends.

Our crew was made up of the best and most knowledgeable shooters in the state... some of the customers traveled for 3 hours to come to the shop.

It was friendly - you could always drop in like it was the local pub, and talk about gun stuff, without buying anything that trip.

Now come forward to the "current times".

In my state, the gun shops have become hostile zones.  The sales guys don't know much about guns - they are cold and have a macho self image problem.  They wear plastic speed draw holsters, with widdle plastic pistols.  They are not talkative, they are condescending to women customers, and assume that you know nothing, cuz they're "Gun pros" and you must've just came from your "pistol permit class" (cuz you don't have that beady glass-eye'd "gunfighter" stare :)))

... even though you have been shooting all your life and own almost as many guns as they have in inventory.  That's Connecticut for ya'

What do you see where you live?

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Spring has sprung, Da' creek has riz, I wonder where dem kitties is? - Tuesday, August 30, 2016, at 15:19:29 (ZULU)


I’m thinking that the deal with your LGS must be where you’re at.

Out here I’ve got 2 good LGS. That’s not including the big-box warehouse sporting goods an hour away, or the overpriced limited section in the farm / ranch / hardware stores with kids behind the counter.

Those 2 places are good on pricing and quality of goods, just understocked. I asked why about a week ago, and they said they thought it was people buying in anticipation of a bad election result in November. People here are buying anything and everything! Seriously, one of those stores had a shotgun and an AR on the wall, that was it. They said as quick as they made them (they build AR types with their own brand and such), they’re sold. Period.

The thing is, neither of my LGS sell loading components. If I’ve got a coupon for the hardware store, I’ll buy individual pounds of powder there, but the regular prices are too high to consider elsewise. So I buy loading components off the internet – Powder Valley has been really good to me for many years now.

The one with almost bare walls sets up an annual shoot – 6” plates ranging from 250 to 1K. It’s timed, and running with all your gear from stage to stage always includes an uphill and downhill stretch. Last year for me, a 6” gong at 840 in gusting wind was just a bit past my limit. Frustrating watching rounds go on both sides of the gong, no correction. Makes me reconsider getting a 300WM (it’s caliber-limited to the WM). Those guys are shooters, and they get all my NFA business, as well as other little things I tend to need from time to time.

But at those 2 “real” LGS, nobody is condescending or rude. Even to the point of telling the customer “this works for me, but something else might work just as good or better for you”. I’ve seen it personally more than a few times.

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Tuesday, August 30, 2016, at 20:52:00 (ZULU)



Sometime back I went into a Cabelas on a weekend day,laid 5 boxes of .17hmr ammo on the counter and asked about their selection of Cz 452 American rifles and they had 3 in stock. The counter guy was patient,and brought out all 3 so I could examine the test target included in each. The 3 rifles in the box laid out end to end took up the entire counter. Potential customers were a little irritated and had to keep moving around us to view anything in the glass counter/case.After inspecting each rifle and target I made up my mind which one I was gonna purchase.

The rifle was to be a B/day gift for my only niece.Even tho the counter guy was patient there was a slight look of irritation while I was making my inspections. It wasnt untill I opened up my wallet and laid out 5 or 6 $100 dollar bills did the counter guys face change from irritated to respectful.Then the "Sirs" flowed freely,and the politeness kicked into overdrive to the point I really just wanted to leave.

That wasnt the part that really got me, What got me was after clearing the background check and going thru check out paying for both rifle and ammo,taking the slip back to the gun counter. I was escorted back out,while the dept. manager carried the boxed rifle to the door and handed me my purchase at the door.

Yes,I was happy with my purchase and my niece was floored by her gift. I felt like I had been caught shoplifting by being walked to the door with some one else carrying my property.

We only have one local gun shop around here, I went in to pick up some ammo for a .25 Colt I had just picked up and order some chokes for the Benelli.  

Selection is low,prices high. Order fill time for the chokes,long and slow, still havent gotten them.

Glad I found the misplaced chokes.

He did have .25 cal Hornady ammo even tho he said he didnt and when I called it on him He said "I thought you were looking for practice ammo." My reply back was if I need to use it its better for me to practice with the ammo I plan to use.

To be honest I been trying to keep things kinda low key,

Call it what ya want.Maybe its cuz they never have what I am looking for or its the political swing of things but when ever I do ask for something thats not on the shelf I get an "Oh,you're one of those guys" kinda look.

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stixville, wi, - Wednesday, August 31, 2016, at 00:54:14 (ZULU)


Old home week!

I have the new G2; now to tear it down.  Freakin' hand guards on it looks like a large dang pineapple.  I may reutilize it to chock my truck when jacking it; safety is always wise.  

As-is, with that IOR pitbull scope mounted, it hits 10 pounds and a bunch of zeroes.  8.7 is certainly possible, with my planned mods.... and it's 10 again only this time with a mag full of 308.  I am lazy in my old.  A light weight semi tack driver in 308 that WORKs is my goal.  If I even come close, I will post details.

Kudos, Lito.  The place has pulse!

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EC, WI, - Wednesday, August 31, 2016, at 20:48:51 (ZULU)


Speaking of AR types, where's the cheapest place to score a Magpul UBR Gen 2 stock?

If someone knows of a place cheaper than LAPolicegear, I'm all ears!

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Wednesday, August 31, 2016, at 21:51:12 (ZULU)


re: shopping

Firearm, accessories and reloading is slowly growing locally.

I don't do a lot of brick and mortar shopping, but I'll buy ammunition and reloading components if it's a good price or fills a gap.

Two private companies are talking about opening indoor commercial ranges in the next year, will likely have retail shops attached.

Walmart (ammunition only), Canadian Tire (ammunition only) and Green DIamond 0 John Deer rep (firearms, reloading components and ammunition) are some of the local chains.

Cabelas is opening a store locally next year.

Gun shows and online are a much richer experience for me.

One of the ironic consequences of universal licensing of firearm owners in Canada is that I can get any firearm delivered to my door without having to go thru a local dealer.

When I online order reloading components I typically have it delivered to my workplace so that I don't have to chase down a carrier.  My household staff seems to be on permanent vacation :-)

Nova Scotia Rifle Association has 800m range 45 minutes drive from my residence.  

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halifax, nova Scotia, Canada - Wednesday, August 31, 2016, at 23:32:36 (ZULU)



The WallyWorld super center situation down here by me is a constant migraine experience.

The staff has no clue how to operate the machine that accesses the Wi. DNR registration. After being charged $50 for what was supposed to be a Small Game,Early Goose and Regular Goose/Duck Season I looked over the printout given to me and it reads:  Waterfowl----  $50

Never asked me the HIP questions,what areas I hunt (Exterior or Horicon zones). Thankfully I didnt have to argue what I paid for and what I didnt with Mr. G. Warden.

When I tried to buy any ammo I got told that it can only be sold during certain hours and I can only buy X amount at one time and I was told its a State Law.

I gave up arguing non existent State Laws with morons a long time ago.

Its been so long since I hit my usual haunts I really am not sure if they are still open.The one I prefer to use has a 10 or 12 station 25m indoor pistol range. They rent out handguns also along with selling reloading supplies for rifle,pistol or shotgun.They feature a full inhouse smithy service too, and with being a Class 111 dealer I was even buying good ol fashioned Black Powder (not the Pyrodex crap) there as well.

I did one have awkward experience there once and it was of no fault of the establishment or staff. My then future wife had a stalker problem and not wanting to take any chances I showed her to run my semi tricked 1911. Seeing how I was working nights it sure seemed like a good idea at the time. I mean what good is a home defence weapon if the only person who knows how to use it is at work when all the bad guys like to come out and play, Right ?

So here are me and the future mrs. standing at the counter trying to decide what handgun to rent for her on this session with the idea of her buying her own at a later date.Whe had a running list of calibers,makes and models that we were working off of to find something that best suited her hand and skill level.

As we were discussing the finer points of each with the counter guy/ R O  she turned to fae me,I saw her eyes go past me and then she went white with shock and started trembling.Her mouth was moving like a fish out water gulping air but no sounds came out.

The stalker was standing right behind me.

Like I said earlier it was of no fault of the staff or establishment.

I have heard tho that in the last 2 or 3 years it seems to attract some of them idiot moron types that just feel the need to rent/try out a handgun and then decide to paint the walls with their brains.

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stixville, wi, - Thursday, September 1, 2016, at 02:57:03 (ZULU)



LGS: Got lots - this is Texas. The closest one is just down the road, with a good selection of both firearms and ammo. And friendly - they donated a Henry rifle to the fundraiser for our EMS & Fire operation. There are two good commercial indoor ranges within 25 minutes, and a Bass Pro and an Academy Sports and Outdoors about 30 minutes away. Bless Obama and Hillary, the nation's best gun salespersons.

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Spring Branch, TX, Northern Occupied Territory of Mexico - Thursday, September 1, 2016, at 03:17:15 (ZULU)



UnPat...

"As we were discussing the finer points of each with the counter guy/RO, she turned to face me, I saw her eyes go past me and then she went white with shock and started trembling. Her mouth was moving like a fish out water gulping air but no sounds came out.

The stalker was standing right behind me."

---

"Honey, I know you are having a tough time deciding which 1911 45 auto to get.  Let's ask this nice fellow here.  Excuse me sir, but my fiance has a problem with a stalker, and she wants to get a 45 auto to shoot the son-of-bitch the next time he stalks her.

Maybe you, as an outsider, can help her make up her mind.

Do you think she should get the full sized 5" Colt, or the 3.5" Officers, to use with 165 grain Corbon hollow points?  I like the 5", but she thinks the 3.5" Officer's is cute.

What do you think, I mean, if you were a stalker, which would scare the shit out of you the most?"

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Meowski ;)))))))))

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Spring has sprung, Da' creek has riz, I wonder where dem kitties is? - Thursday, September 1, 2016, at 17:19:17 (ZULU)


Kitty Wacker, It sure sounds funny when ya put it like that.Thanx for the laugh I needed it this morning.

Actually it was more like:

Wife: "Can I see the XD 9 and do you have a dummy round for it ?

Click click, Can I get 2 boxes of house loads Please ?"

RO: "Oh,your with him? as he points to me Ok,We will figure out the gun rental later and keep track of the ammo"

Bang bang bang

RO: "what do ya think?"

Wife:"I like the grip,dont like trigger and it feels too light.Can I see that snub nosed and a couple dummy rounds?" Click click

RO: "Well?"

Wife: " I dont like the long heavy DAO trigger pull and How come the XD holds more bullets?"

She fell in love with and picked out a Browning BDA 380. All I did coach her with the shooting and vocabulary and open my wallet.

In all honesty I can say she doesnt want to scare the guy if he were to start stalking her again.Just something about being kidnapped and assaulted at knife point would naturally want that persons breathing ability stopped. The stalking started after he did 6 yrs and earned his way onto the sex offenders registry.

Of course she went thru all the correct channels,TRO,contacting the locals and the they contacted the his PO and about a week or so would go by and we would get a courtesy call from the local to inform us his PO did a drop by and he was where he was supposed to be when the PO did his drop by.The usual song and dance when law abiding citizens and the locals play by rules and criminals dont.

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stixville, wi, - Friday, September 2, 2016, at 00:43:38 (ZULU)



Sad news...

I was talking to Ken this morning, and I knew that his wife has had some health problems for a while.

Ken sent this to me:

=============================================

Paul,

Good chatting with you. Also whilst I’m thinking about it… Also will share Kim’s status with you.  You can share this with the other hogs as well.

Take care, God Bless…

From: Kim Hunter [mailto:kimh@xxx.xxx]

Sent: Saturday, September 03, 2016 12:52

To: kimh@xxx.xxx; 'Ken Hunter'

Subject: Kim's Status and the Awesome Power of Prayer

Greetings,

As some of you know, I was admitted to the hospital this week as my cancer has dramatically increased and spread.  Apparently, one of the tumors is now blocking my large intestines and caused a life-threatening blockage.  This came as a surprise to my husband, Ken, and me since we had planned to go on vacation to Maine this week and I was not in too much pain.  On Tuesday, the doctors said that if my intestines had ruptured, it would have been fatal.   Obviously, we have cancelled our trip and I was admitted into the hospital on Tuesday to see if the blockage might clear with the understanding if it did not, I would have emergency surgery to install an ostomy bag on Wednesday.  The other issue was – with surgery – I would not be eligible for a clinical trial and the National Institute of Health (NIH) and at that point I would be assigned to hospice.  Things looked pretty bleak.

Prayers were answered that night and the blockage was resolved.  The doctors were astounded.  I was not.  I believe in the power of pray and I firmly believe that the prayers saved my life.   Thanks to all who prayed for me.  I could feel the power of the Lord with me that night and I was not afraid.

Now I have to just hold on until the start of a clinical trial at NIH that is scheduled to begin on the 14th of September.  Today I am feeling OK, but it is rather painful.  Luckily I am now on medication that dulls much of the pain.  Of course that means I cannot drive safely and it would be unwise for me  do so.  So if I do not get out to see you, please understand I am limited in my ability to travel.  My husband Ken is able to drive if I am feeling OK, but he also has to work and may not be able to chauffer me about.  

That is why I am writing this note -  to let each and every one of you know that you have touched my life in a positive way at some point in my journey.  I am trying to set up meetings to see as many of you that are in the local area as is possible, but if I am too late or if you live far away, please know how much I value the kindness you have shown me.   If my intestines rupture prior to the chemo beginning to reduce the tumors, it will be fatal.  That could happen without warning.  Needless to say, at that point I would be in no position to send another email or call you.  

I do have hope that I will respond positively to the chemo.  If it works, I could get some more time.  If it is does not, I have been told it is a matter of months now.  

Although I appreciate the cards and flowers that I have received, I ask that in lieu of you sending things to me that you plan a special event with your family and let them know how much you love them.  Trust me, life is too short and you should think of each day as a blessing and live it fully.  My primary concern at this point is how my passing will impact Ken.  I ask that everyone keep Ken in your prayers and please reach out to him once in a while after I am gone.  

Ken’s cell is xxx-xxx-xxxx.  You can text him.  Plus, he usually knows what is going on with me and he will be the one contacting you if and when I cannot.  

So for now, I would like to say “Until I see you later” and leave you with this Bible verse:

1 Peter 24:25: “All flesh is like grass, and all its glory like the flowers of the field: the grass withers and the flowers fall, but the word of the Lord stands forever.”

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I have x'ed out the phone number and email adresses to protect Kim and Ken's privacy at this time (there are scumbags everywhere).

If you want to contact Ken or Kim, email me at condor@cox.net and I will forward it directly to them.  Put "Kim" in the subject line.

I personally know Ken and Kim - I spent time in their home some years back, and of course, Ken was my shooting team-mate in the last Carlos Hathcock Sniper matches in Keyser W.VA back in 1999.... if you believe in God, or just Karma, they could use all you got to spare - they both are fine people, and I am proud to call them my friends!

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Spring has sprung, Da' creek has riz, I wonder where dem kitties is? - Saturday, September 3, 2016, at 19:48:08 (ZULU)


Thoughts and Prayers to Ken and his family

Hope everyone has a safe holiday

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stixville, Wi, - Monday, September 5, 2016, at 13:49:16 (ZULU)


After peanut's experience and then my own, no man will tell me prayer has no power.  That liar can pound sand.

Ken, our prayers are going outbound for you and yours.

LGS:  The least knowledgeable human ever to grace a counter seems to have been worn down by time and customers that laughed in his face.  Nepotism stuck him there; daddy was expanding beyond precious metals.  5 years of contradiction finally filled the boy with enough curiosity that he asks questions rather than preaching solutions at you.  And someone told him what kind of reloading components this town is lacking---decent supply of all things.  My other shop is still alive and licking; a local haunt of free coffee interrupted by the occasional paying customer....hunter's shop or special order.  But that is the bent of anyone wanting to stay in business up here---cater to the remmy 760 crowd.  The local Gander treated my boy like a thief, and I melted down the manager in an epic rant and swore not one Mahon dime ever hits their store again:-))  That was many thousands of dollars ago:-))  My son likes the chain and sales, but will drive 60 miles west to shop at another location.  That's pretty cool of him.

I really hate it that the internet is kicking local ass like it can---so I do intentionally spend a few more pennies on certain items at my many LGS--when available.  

I just received a bunch of SLR Rifleworks parts for that new recon G2; I plan to tear it apart this afternoon.  I delayed the operation due to a visit from my past---my motor officer from the Deuce dropped in for the weekend.  Warrant of the new fifth grade...master warrant?  CW5?  His retirement was put on hold by the VA--convenience of the government.  Hiding our broken parts from MRBs results in delayed MRBs UNLESS you get your orders first.  I fondly recall that shitbag Colonel informing me that I was to be MRB'd and me telling him to enjoy wasting his damned time---I made myself immune to his bullshit:-)  I actually said that...

Note to all:  Do your letter, get your retirement orders-

And then replace all those lab reports and consults back into the medical jacket:-))

Orders first, and then dump records in their laps.  Reverse any of that, and get bonus overtime added back on.  

If your primary job was to drive a rifle and you did so for the 20 years or more, your body is broken:-)  It's the law (of physics)....

If you avoided an MRB and early retirement--you hid some things.  

There's a someone out there right now going, "Yes I did."  LOL.

I've been told "That's stupid and self destructive!"

I was thinking so too is 12 guys convinced they alone can take on the world.  But, we want 12 guys so convinced.  With that comes the motivation that drives on through pain....and eventually, as those old guys all said, it wears you down.  It is all good--I laughed then at the old guys and their warnings about knees and backs; now I laugh at myself, finally an old guy.  Old guys are funny I guess:-))

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Monday, September 5, 2016, at 16:58:54 (ZULU)


A thought from William Shatner:

When they ask you to be in a current movie of Star Trek, and they are going to go back in time to get you, and they go back and you are old, then you are really old.

Gotta go, the hurricane just got here :((((

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Spring has sprung, Da' creek has riz, I wonder where dem kitties is? - Monday, September 5, 2016, at 20:58:31 (ZULU)


test, test, can you guys hear me?

medicjim

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Wednesday, September 7, 2016, at 20:31:42 (ZULU)


Ma Shoo...

Meowski.

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Spring has sprung, Da' creek has riz, I wonder where dem kitties is? - Thursday, September 8, 2016, at 16:52:03 (ZULU)


http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=mashoo

So I'm divorced, have 50% custody of my two kids and will be able to get back to shooting as soon as I unload the burden of two residences (have to sell the 'marriage house').  Health was touch and go for a while, until I was ultimately diagnosed with Celiac and stopped poisoning myself.

I recently made the career switch from software development to Information Security... got my CISSP and I work for a large company that provides technology services to the big banks and wall street firms.

I am glad to hear so many of you have bounced back from similar health challenges, and will spend some time trying to put in the good word for Ken and his spouse...

I was both shocked and very pleased to see you guys all gathered around the fire again... I wish you all the best.

Regards

Jim

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Thursday, September 8, 2016, at 21:22:57 (ZULU)


Health challenges go with getting older - until one kills you. I survived cancer 4 years ago - with no signs, so far, of it coming back. There are other minor things - but I made a backpacking trip in the mountains above 12,000 feet last month, the month of my 70th birthday, so all those other things are truly minor. My wife died 5 years ago, and I am happily remarried. I am very blessed.

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Spring Branch, TX, Northern Occupied Territory of Mexico - Friday, September 9, 2016, at 14:09:57 (ZULU)


I for one, may not have been all that much of a contributor when I started here almost 20 years ago.  I sure gleaned a tome of information, and applied all that I could to my shooting, reloading, and other aspects of my life.

All from you guys, here.  There's some whom are missing, there's others still absent, but as inferred previous... it's good to see THE ORIGINALS adding their input, again.

If any of ya'll are ever coming up to Canada, do let me know.

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Winnipeg, Mb., Canada - Friday, September 9, 2016, at 15:52:15 (ZULU)


(LGS) "What do you see where you live?"

We have Specialty Sports and Supply in Colorado Springs. HUGE shop, old Rite Aid building. Owner Jeff tries not to hire the introverted poser nerds. If anything, they love guns and will talk your ear off.

The other LGS in the area seem to have gotten past the steely eyed poser types too.

We have loads of gun shows in Colorado (pretty much every week end from Pueblo to Ft Collins), so it seems maybe the area is saturated with the firearms industry and no one thinks its some kind of special black magic voodoo anymore.  Plus, we have several major military bases so being a BS artist doesn't work out so well.

Supplies in stores are plentiful overall.  We have several Cabelas stores now and they are full of inventory and people buying.  Overall, the firearms market is doing well here.

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Friday, September 9, 2016, at 16:09:29 (ZULU)


Kittywhacker, please do relay my concerns for Major Kim, Chainsaw has always been a GREAT guy. I'm really sorry to see them going through that stuff. And that if there's anything I can do, to PLEASE let me know.

I too am a big believer in prayer - that prayer stuff just works. Seen it too many times to have any doubt left.

And you fare OK with the big winds? The pictures coming out of that storm make it look fierce.

Jim is back too!

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=mashoo

Man, that's a hoot!

I'm really sorry you had to go through that divorce garbage. Even the best divorce - which HAS to be Bruce - isn't worth the BTDT T-shirt. Just think though, you could have gone through what I did ;-)

Speaking of, next month will be my 3rd anniversary. Like Lindy, I feel very blessed. The sad thing is that after being single for so many years, I've kind of got set in my ways. And her too for the most part. It took more than I figured on to set all that stuff aside. Strange enough, the biggest problem I saw was kids. They sure played everyone against everyone else. I figured at 15, 16, and 17 they wouldn't have done that, but I was WRONG! But now the youngest is almost ready to leave home, hopefully the military can take up teaching him anything that he wouldn't learn from me (GRIN).

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Friday, September 9, 2016, at 16:30:37 (ZULU)


Divorce and teens:

I too thought like Bravo,With me being 48yrs old and her a few older,and her 3 kids in mid and later teens. I figured since I was a dedicated bachelor the issues and adjustments were gonna be on my end,(mostly).

WRONG...Lol  I seem to remember a certain Waylon Jennings tune titled with the same word.

The future mrs and I clicked very well,lived and stayed together for 10 yrs and 2 yrs ago we finally went to the courthouse and made it all official.

All 3 kids did their damnedest to bust us up,as well as play mom against dad and/or dad against me and mom and any or all combinations thereof depending on the situation and who was goin to gain what.The part they never anticipated was me sittin down with Dad and Mom and saying "We are all being played". With me being the "outsider" the kids never thought for a second that just maybe I might have dated more than a few single moms and seen the game more than once.

One of her daughters is now a single mom,the other is married off and has 2 kids,and the son got a few hard lessons in life and managed to earn his way into the 'felon' category. As much time I tried to spend with him to teach him life and society have rules,Daddy had taught him at an earlier age that he (the kid) was special and the rules dont matter.

Yes,it did break our hearts,but we moved on.

About a year ago or so the son dropped by for a visit,and he pulled me aside and "Thank You, for trying.It took me awhile to catch onto some of the basic things you were trying to teach me about respect,courtesy and honesty.I guess I should have listened."

All 3 kids are free to visit anytime with the simple understanding of "When ya leave your house the drama stays on your doorstep,dont bring it to mine."  So far to date the son is the only that understands that simple rule and has been the only one to drop by.

All 3 were invited to come to the wedding party. None showed.  Which was ok too.The alcohol flowed freely for 4 days. There wasnt a single fight and no County Sheriffs showed up. Not bad,Not bad at all.

Gargoyle, I see some empty glasses. Catch the house a round and a toast to the not so new newly weds,

Slainte

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stixville, Wi, - Friday, September 9, 2016, at 20:59:47 (ZULU)


Good to see guys posting!

JLU

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Oconomowoc, Wisconsin, USA - Saturday, September 10, 2016, at 18:07:31 (ZULU)


Never forget.  

This day is STILL unmasking America's enemies.  Not one of us should be surprised to find these enemies are also within our borders.....

Only a relative few are taking notice, but when the shit goes down, only a few are worthy of standing shoulder to shoulder with; and it is a place like this where such folks gather.....

Never Forget.  Watch your 6.  Remember the faces and names of the great among us and the great now departed, and remember with equal clarity the traitors that would bring our ruin from within.  

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Sunday, September 11, 2016, at 19:15:37 (ZULU)


As I'd said elsewhere this morning:

On this day, know who you are, where you are, and how you are. So many others, can't.

So you better know why........

I'm raising a glass,

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Winnipeg, Mb., Canada - Sunday, September 11, 2016, at 22:52:32 (ZULU)


UnPat, sounds like you've lived some of the same battle.

I started to respond with some serious comparisons of what we've been through, but decided that didn't need to go up on the internet. Let's just say "I very much feel your pain".

The drama is something I've been working to get out of my life since 2001. Still haven't COMPLETELY cleared it out, but it's hovering in the 3% range of what it was.

And eventually, I WILL purge that out as well.

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Monday, September 12, 2016, at 20:22:44 (ZULU)


Gents,

Anyone have a fast source of supply for a DSA/ FAL?  

My son, being my son, wishes to repeat my every experiment for himself.  Even the ones that did not work out for the best....But I will admit that lately it has been fun to watch as he "gets it" more and more. A couple of kids and a new wife will do that:-)

But....he still wants to see for himself why my FAL remains a parts kit on the shelf.  I wrote it off as "iron sights only" years ago, and my eyes wrote off irons also years ago.  I will also admit his eyes are still good:-))  So, he not only wants a side folding 16" with that bolt on dust cover, he also wants one stripped metric upper receiver--for the ol' parts kit (once he gets into that headspace goat-rope---he may see things my way yet).  

Bravo offered up two places yesterday I am about to check out....and if anyone has a go-to shop for such things, recommendations are welcome.

Apparently, DSA sells a bunch of these dinosaurs:-))

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Tuesday, September 13, 2016, at 12:13:26 (ZULU)


LGS:

Wow, my bad--Lauer Custom Weaponry (Duracoat) is right around the corner.  I think of Steve's place as a manufacturer, but his front office is a gun shop a few hours for a few days per week.  It is fairly exotic in there:-))

Speaking of exotic AND FALs:

At SHOT DSA presented their Titanium FAL.  The thing was 6.8 pounds which slid UNDER my G2 by a tenth of a pound and pissed me off.  How dare they steal my idea and one up my effort?  I'm lighter now, and I ended up at 2/3rds the cost of ridiculous....DSA's lite-weight effort being ridiculous:-))

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Tuesday, September 13, 2016, at 12:22:00 (ZULU)


Bravo,

For some reason the title prefix Step just never fit with us. They see me as Moms Husband and I see them as my wifes kids, maybe because they were older,I dont know,either way everyone is ok with leaving the word step out of it.

Most of the drama now stems from the wifes anxiety flares when she is excluded from certain calendar events or the frustration from her disabilities.

If there was one real accomplishment I would have had for the (twin) daughters to have completed it would be that they had held off from having children and had completed their nursing degrees.

The "thank you" from the son I never expected or asked for.So it caught me a little bit off guard. Just goes to show whether their yours or someone elses,they do the damnedest things.

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stixville, Wi, - Tuesday, September 13, 2016, at 17:42:17 (ZULU)


UnPat, I'm with you completely on the step- stuff.

I tried to be a good father-figure to her kids, since they certainly didn't have a father worth mentioning. The fact that it earned me such resentment was the surprising part. So yeah, my wife and I wound up in the same position - "her kids" versus "my kid". Her kids made it clear that I was "Mom's husband", and I would have been OK with that if they'd just observed a moderately simple level of respect for the house and the other people in it. That was just too much to ask for I guess.

I booted the older one for "unacceptable behaviour". He came back from life on his own with an understanding that I wasn't the unreasonable person in the mix. So much so that he lectured his younger brother about how I "was easy" - if I was given a little respect there wasn't a limit on what I'd do for them. Dang! The kid broke the code!

When he got laid off, I let him move back in, and things were great for a while - but then he forgot his own lesson, and got rebooted. For "unacceptable behaviour". Again. Unlike baseball, in my book it's 2 strikes and you're out.

And the younger one didn't listen, and got booted. He had the same eye-opening experience and came back with a different attitude - he's back in my house now, at least for the next few months. I don't have a problem with him, and he doesn't appear to have a problem with me. But at his age, he's not home much anyways.

Unfortunately, my kid also got booted for "unacceptable behavior". Yeah, there was a lot of that going around for the past couple of years. He's come back and apologized too, but he's not moving back in until he cleans up his mess. I'm not going to allow drama back onto my property..... and a man steps up and takes responsibility. He still needs to learn the practical application of that lesson.

I've done my part to turn them all into men. At this point it's no longer my job, I've enrolled them into the School of Hard Knocks, and the world will kick them in the nutsack until they listen. It's a shame to see them learn the hard way - I just hope they learn before it's too late and they become hooligans or democrats.

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Wednesday, September 14, 2016, at 20:43:11 (ZULU)



"I just hope they learn before it's too late and they become hooligans or democrats."

1 Felon and 2 Hillary supporters just cuz they have XX chromosomes....  Damn, I lost.

Wow,Serious data process overload. Had a State Case worker and 2 nurses over for a benefits explanation and interview for Angels Medic-aide approval.

Then came the ever popular question: "Do you keep loaded firearms in the house?"   I laughed at her and asked her back " Do you have a Full or empty fire extinguisher in your house?"  The look of confusion was priceless.

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stixville, Wi, - Friday, September 16, 2016, at 02:02:27 (ZULU)


"Do you keep loaded firearms in the house?"

HA!

I had a nurse ask me a similar question once.....

My response was "Do you like to take it from behind?"

When she got all flustered, I said "I'm sorry, I thought you'd started a game of asking questions that were none of anyone else's business and it was my turn".

Someone did ask me once, in my livingroom, if I always 'wore a pistol'.

My response was "only when I'm wearing pants".

Stupid people asking stupid questions shouldn't be surprised when they get stupid answers.

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Friday, September 16, 2016, at 20:50:39 (ZULU)


Our first serious and serial IED attacks in the nation were amateur hour and that hour is now past.

These simple and simpleton attacks released TONS of great intel for the bad-guy AAR; his confederates in Islime now understand the surveillance state and will appreciate its capabilities for future ops. That last easy day was yesterday in that regard.

They see how LEOs interacted, and that the control measures (tollgates) cameras operate in REAL TIME in spotting a BOLO vehicle and alerting for a response.  The bad guys now understand some software is gathering pixels and sorting out faces and plates.  This alone provides simple countermeasures already being employed by those confederates, such as using random vehicles not your own, recon in one, strike from yet another; add "traffic" as criteria AND mask actions by mimicking action already in play.   If a crowd shuffles past a McDonalds, use that bag not a back pack etc etc.  

Amateur hour lulls you into a false sense of security while simultaneously improving bad guy technique.

And so because we are nothing but predictable in our smug superiority---the next bombing or attack by other methods will be a real eye opening experience for far too many.  

And let's face it; ever since Obarry called out the NRA and guns, global attacks seemed to switch to blades and bombs overnight leaving the impression the badguys might just have a sense of humor to go along with the VERY SCARY ability to coordinate GLOBALLY.

Machette, multiple knives here and in Germany and the UK; bombs all over Turkey, the middle east and here and Europe; GUNS conspicuously absent.  My own theory is Obarry WANTS to be a great Islamist but his brethren look at him like we look at the mall ninja:-))

Opportunities to attack---highly symbolic both here and in Europe have come and gone without incident despite previous and recent attacks; knowing there is capability, opportunity and motive--one must ask:  Are they demonstrating operational discipline?  If so....that ain't good.   Discipline is a new dimension for these suicidal soldiers.  My professional opinion is simple:  "Shit."

That's based on a simple axiom:  Better to fight a nihilistic enemy on his front door, not your own.  

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Tuesday, September 20, 2016, at 15:47:31 (ZULU)


Been crazy busy,Have a combine motor to resleeve and a A/C XT 190 motor to resleeve.Sure hope my farmer landlord can nurse the combine along till I get the XT done.

Loved your comment Bravo,the laughing fit it generated came at just the right time.Omg,just mentally picturing the look on the nurses face produces a huge grin.

My Angel's medi-caide approval generated a huge SNAFU that took 5 hrs on the phone to straighten out.Long story short,The State had 17 yrs worth of primary insurance entries to delete before My Angel could get $800 of meds covered. Begining to see why Maj. Joe says get/keep your paper work in order, even tho I am seeing the civilian side of the system I really feel for you guys that run into any problems.Getting anything straightened out years later is a real pia.

Got this in an e-mail,havent seen/heard anything so willing to shar.Apologies if you all know about this.

REMINDER TO REMINGTON RIFLE OWNERS

A Settlement Has Been Proposed in an Economic Loss Lawsuit that Alleges Safety Defects

You may be eligible to have your firearm retrofitted or receive other benefits

Recently, a federal judge ordered the parties in an economic-loss class action to remind owners of certain Remington firearms that a settlement has been reached. The settlement involves two classes. The first class includes owners of firearms that utilize a trigger connector. The second class includes owners of firearms that utilize the X-Mark Pro trigger mechanism that is the subject of a voluntary safety recall. The settlement allows owners of Remington models 700, Seven, and related models to have their trigger replaced free of charge, among other benefits.

The settlement was entered following allegations that Remington firearms can fire without a trigger pull. Remington denies those allegations with respect to the trigger connector but is offering trigger replacements to ensure continued satisfaction for its valuable customers. With respect to X-Mark Pro trigger mechanisms, Remington has implemented a voluntary safety recall. If you own a firearm that is subject to the safety recall, stop using your firearm immediately.  Safety has always been a priority for Remington.

Even if you do nothing you will be bound by the Court’s decisions. If you want to keep your right to sue the Defendants yourself, you must exclude yourself from the Settlement Class by November 18, 2016. If you stay in the Settlement Class, you may object to the Settlement by November 18, 2016.

Call 1-800-876-5940 now to learn the models involved, make your claim or find out more. Or visit www.remingtonfirearmsclassactionsettlement.com.

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stixville, Wi, - Saturday, September 24, 2016, at 17:56:37 (ZULU)


..... somebody trip on the power cord or something????

.45 kicks 9mm's ass

6mm Creedmoor beats 7.62x51 daily

1911 paved the way, and Glock is a far second

Tasco is an industry leader

'Lito loves cats

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my work here is done!

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Winnipeg, Mb., Canada - Tuesday, September 27, 2016, at 21:23:29 (ZULU)


Sean T. You are showing your age.  :)

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OK, - Wednesday, September 28, 2016, at 12:59:59 (ZULU)


Since obviously someone needs something to discuss.....

I'm looking at IOR / Valdada optics. What's the consensus?

The Steiners look really good too - especially these new US built scopes. They just don't have as many models out as what IOR does, and I'm looking more for something 'intermediate'.

Thoughts?

Other than Lupita has priced themselves out of the market....

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Thursday, September 29, 2016, at 17:49:14 (ZULU)


Bravo has already heard all about my IOR pitbull, but that is a niche scope if ever there was such a thing.  Bright, clear as day and tough as nails.  1x or 6x, nothing in between.  It's made for lazies like me that wants a red dot and a little magnification with milscales to extend the range.  It could also serve a carpenter as a back up  hammer.  

His question remains for the LR stuff, which I am also in need.  

Two IORs can be had at a discount....not a huge fan of FFP (3-18) but the SFP unit is 40mm main tube fat, and being stuck with IOR rings isn't my idea of great, either....

IOR 4-14x50 Ultra Tactical 40mm Rifle Scope,

or

IOR 3-18x42 SH MX-6 Tactical 35mm Rifle Scope

So who else has intel?  

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Friday, September 30, 2016, at 16:42:19 (ZULU)


Sean - you forgot "spin-drift"

:)

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Nokesville, Va, USofA Under God - Monday, October 3, 2016, at 03:37:28 (ZULU)


Chainsaw!!!!

Really good to know you're around! Been pulling for you and the Major, and that's a fact!

If there's ever anything I can do to help from this end, I actually EXPECT you to let me know. Really!

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Monday, October 3, 2016, at 20:12:40 (ZULU)


Damn!!!!!!!!!!!!!  I quit paying attention and the site comes back to life with entries from people I remember.

Nice to see you're all still alive & kicking.  I retired late last year after 27+ years.  Not quite the same feeling as the "Take this job & shove it" moment.  

I'm dreading the day after election (fraud) day.

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Ladysmith, Virginia, United States - Sunday, October 9, 2016, at 01:32:38 (ZULU)


""spin-drift" "

Ya just had to say it! There goes the next month and a half!

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Confusion, State, Was the USA - Tuesday, October 11, 2016, at 03:53:47 (ZULU)


"'Lito loves cats"

Well, by now he's probably gotten rid of all the ones he didn't like.

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Tuesday, October 11, 2016, at 03:57:35 (ZULU)


"Well, by now he's probably gotten rid of all the ones he didn't like."

And from a long,long,long ways out. I havent personally met the man but I cant picture him liking very many cats... Well... 'cept for maybe dead ones.

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Stixville , Wi, - Wednesday, October 12, 2016, at 20:02:31 (ZULU)



Dred Election:  We now live in interesting times.  But we knew we had arrived 8 years ago.  November is round two, if we make it.

The SINGLE most perplexing BS among the many, many choices with Obarry is this newest twist with Russia.  First, we the USA are the bad guy; Barry got his ceasefire and promptly bombed Russian-Syrian forces at the airport.  Fighting, of course, resumed.  Now Barry and his media meddley of lapdogs squawk loudly "Our Dear Aleppo."  My god, population conditioning at its worst.  But WTF about the timing---here the weird stands out---redline August 2012 (and YES, Hillary was STILL SECSTATE, but she forgot at the debate), No Russian presence is Syria and a clear shot at another political assassination ala Kaddafi, or just a panty-waisted no-fly zone atop Damascus and Obarry has his shiny moment.  But, that moment came and went before he so much as unlimped his wrist.  And NOW?  Inexplicable using Nat'l security interests to figure out any benefit to antagonizing the Russian bear, especially after the sequester damage to all military forces, especially Army/ Navy.  All those warehouses on piers in Virginia are also aircraft carriers, just add 5000 squids that we do not have, and off you go....So, if not beneficial, look at the twisted view....and oh shit.

Internal polling must look bad for Hillary was my first thought.  Being the Mahdi and heading his caliphate is another:-))

Well, so much for my former definition of surrealism.  It used to be "election of 2008."  Hellish nightmare:  I revise that term every 90 days with these clowns at the helm:-))

So...My new G2 is dusty as I make minor adjustments to the AR fleet my kids own.  Peanut ditched her PRS (bench anchor) for an adjustable unit like her sisters use, but other than Aubrey the Red bagging her big Doe, they all prefer shooting apples left on the trees over yotes.  It's a solar powered thing....sundown and eyelids down:-))  Teens....hibernation is real, man!  We salvaged a KAC trigger out, and dropped a spare JP unit in.  Ya'll probably know why.  

SCOPE country:  Any opinions on IOR offerings?  My ONE unit is absolutely good to go, but it is unique as heck and not indicative of the wider line.  

Spin drift, isn't that a thing for four cylinder hyper-tuned cars in LA?  Ha!

Hand me the breaker bar kid...."isn't this a barrel off a model 7?" ....nope; a breaker bar, hand it here.:-))

Some things never change.....and that can be a good thing.  Hopey changy just didn't do it for me....

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Thursday, October 13, 2016, at 12:30:38 (ZULU)


AR triggers:  Geissele for the $, RRA for the cheap and that's it for two stage.  JP (and DPMS's copy), KAC, CMMG--junk.  RRA is okay, BUT do not use a 22lr kit with it.  I'd caution that for most drop ins.  

Bravo likes a GI FCG "worked" properly, and I pick up a lower today that has an "enhanced" GI unit included, from palmetto state.  Take up on the two stage leaves some cold, I do not mind it, the break is where it is, and that is what counts.  One more to "test."  LOL.  The parts drawers are filling up with parts over the years. I don't know why haha.  

I guess some real shit happened since the bar closed last:  I was tasked with killing the Terminator, and have I his ass on the mat and won't let it up.  Glioblastoma Multiforme grade IV, terminal crap.  Doctors said "on average, people die in x weeks to xx months...blah blah."  

Oh, average people!  Whew.  Well, that was 5 years ago and change.  Poor average people keep padding those stats.  Being an anomaly rocks.  

I also reconnected just ahead of that with a love from my past, and we had these awesome years together that I now cherish greatly---we lived like I was dying and, well, it was hard not to.  But the toll of terminal diagnosis and her own battles with her health were burdens she could not bear, and I now have my kids with me on this earth, as she watches over us from above.  

I spent a few years lacing boots.  That is all I remember of them.

But, apparently I also pinned together ARs during the dark ages. Between us, we had 7 kids, and now I added a daughter in law and two grandkids that medical science said I would not meet.  Each has an AR because medical science is an art:-))

And somehow, through it all, I sit here with my lopsided grin, grinning because I do not know his plan, but I enjoy watching it all unfold each and every day.

I am a happy man.  A good life, great friends, awesome family and best of all:  I know who I am having measured myself and made adjustments; in times of confusion, my character was all I had left as an anchor.

Keep that in mind for what is coming......you may know nothing for certain except who you are and what you stand for....never let that go.  It's called that last thread, and you are hanging on:-))

One last thing:  I have no idea where I am in time:-))  Time is meaningless to me now.  I do keep notes, but as memories go, I live one long day without end.  LOL, it is VERY bizarre, and it took me about a year to figure out.   "Tomorrow cannot possibly be next month; it is still last year isn't it?  Absolutely the coolest mental game ever:-)

Come to think of it, my late wife might have posted this already for me....:-))

It has been far too long.  Gents, it is good to be here again....on so many levels!

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Thursday, October 13, 2016, at 13:28:01 (ZULU)


"Bravo likes a GI FCG "worked" properly, and I pick up a lower today that has an "enhanced" GI unit included, from palmetto state."

I can see see why he would like this.  The PSA trigger has little take up, very slight grit to break, and very little over travel, and I think it will break in to be better.  Won't scale it til that break in.  But as-is, it blows away GI triggers.  Against that list in my post--it is FAR CHEAPER too.  If this goes well, anyone want a pile of AR triggers?  LOL.  Not really....parts is parts and these parts are mine:-))  

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Friday, October 14, 2016, at 13:47:13 (ZULU)


Medical science: when I was a kid a couple moved in 2 doors down.  It seems he had some medical condition and the medicos gave him 6-9 months to live. Don't' recall the condition. About 15 years later they moved.

Glad to see you and yours doing well Joe.

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Friday, October 21, 2016, at 01:16:21 (ZULU)


I was a member here many years ago and just found this place again and recognized many of those that used to post Catshooter (Pablito), Joe M, Bravo, W.R. Moore, Ken Hunter and others. What made me log in again was I was shooting my Sniper Country #37 of 50 G.A. Precision rifle that I bought from a SC group buy many years ago today and it brought back old memories. Rifle still has a low round count of 490 and shoots 1/2 MOA all day long. Email I used then is no longer valid but I still remembered it and my pw here..thanks for the memories

Rick

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Powhatan, Va, USA - Monday, October 24, 2016, at 00:49:14 (ZULU)


I did the same thing!  I used to read here multiple times a day, and it has been forever since I've been back.  Im glad to see some of the old timers still on here and ornery as ever!

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Monday, October 31, 2016, at 18:46:31 (ZULU)


Y'know, it's sad that with all that is going on in the contintent and world today... that things are so silent here.

This used to be the gathering of some of the best minds, and sharing of the logical'est thoughts, in some of the insightfull'est ways.....

And all that's here is crickets.

This place is of which you build.  It don't build itself.  We all know what we want to see next week.  Question is, how is it going to affect you,,, one way or 'nother?

Or, in Rosterspeak that would be "Bring back the Bren-10".  Now I done it!

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Winnipeg, Mb., Canada - Saturday, November 5, 2016, at 01:01:34 (ZULU)


I'm about done with FB, a thing that my late wife brought to me, and it will remain "up in bones alone" as our two pages are linked....but, in that gutted, more austere form.  The "interesting times" are rolling over us all; it is one helluva distraction to overcome.  Just ask the NFL...those idiots still wanna pretend I stopped watching and began hating that league "because the debates."  Nope--I take the trash out, I do not invite it back inside.  The denial is absurd as voters pretending one candidate is NOT a criminal enterprise on heels.  LOL.  WTF?  This was America but looking back....it has been something else far longer than I had realized.  The "patterns" of today can be traced back to Carter, centering on Iran.  Reagan was something of an interruption but even his admin had back channel dealing that benefitted the Mullahs.  GWB took out their gobstopper, Saddam, and we as predicted lacked the stomach to see that through.  I excerpted an assessment here in late 2002 from a paper I wrote on "empowering Iran" with hasty regime change....and damn it came to pass.  But, looking back....and DESPITE "official BS Press releases"---our actual RESULTS of policy was to Iran's benefit all along....weird set of data, but, again--ignore words and just assess outcomes....

While we are being played, damned if these cretins were not looting the living shit out of the public treasury.  It is absolutely unbelievable in scale---thus, that was its own security.  Any "leaks" from within would be known as a "confession."  Surprises happen when the impossible was merely improbable....

Personal note:  Something came up on the last scan.  It could be nothing, it could be bad.  In any case, I am back to living MRI to MRI again.  Re-scan between now a Christmas to see what, if anything, is going on.  Regardless, I beat 30 pounds into the trash can since April, and established routine PT.  Being 183 again is a mental victory---sure as hell ain't running like I was last time at this weight!  But, I walk every mile I used to run each day.  Takes a bit longer, but my knees did not quit on me this time.  My heart rate is in the upper 40s, low 50s on a day they tell me "this isn't looking good over here, see that area of enhancement...."  I'd gotten used to "looks good, see ya in 6 months."  LOL, this last scan would have been "see ya next YEAR."  But, next month it is.  whoops.  Better be in shape, just in case I ride into battle sooner than expected.

In Between all that, I have a little G2 in pieces that needs to become a DMR/ battle rifle...I swear, I will have my dual-purpose rifle yet:-))

The carbine/ DMR became carbine only:-))  Like a bolt-on M4, lean and trim loses its way with capability.  I took all that weight off, only to bolt all that weight back on?  I bought a T2 and that's that---freakin LITE 308....perfect balance, familiar in the hands---happiness.

This other G2-based thing will lean into a bipod with usable glass at PB all that way out to 800 yards (or more in skilled hands).  The only weight "savings" here is inherent to this awesome new design.  Skipping the Titanium expenses this build!  

The enhanced GI (some simply with Ni-Boron coatings) triggers are NOT terrible.  I have a PSA unit in a lower that "may break in" to be pretty acceptable....will let ya'll know if the good lord lets me:-))

I plan on being around a while yet....

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Sunday, November 6, 2016, at 12:39:58 (ZULU)



MRI to MRI living just SUCKS!!

Took my Angel in for an eval with an orthopedic for the 2 spots in her spine where the cord is being crushed from bone-bone fusion and degenerative disc. The radiologist sees a bright spot at base of skull/vertebrae and recommended a brain MRI,unclear if its MS,or a tumor or just a media flare. Had brain scan done on Fri and now we wait for the 14th to find out. This "thing" is taking on a life of its own and I get it.I really do.We got so many docs in our ass I swear I am gonna fart credentials and its just starting.

Some of them are decent,others ya wanna nail with a 16lb sledge.Strangest part to me is how the ones the make the claim that they "are just trying to help" are the biggest obstacle and the ones that dont make that claim, treat us like human beings are the ones that freely offer advice and direction.

The Madness of 2016(election) just makes my head hurt. I'd vote for the family dog if it was running against Crazy Granny Clinton.

Thoughts and Prayers

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stixville, Wi, - Sunday, November 6, 2016, at 19:44:30 (ZULU)



HOLY GUACAMOLE!!!

I was deleting all my old obsolete favorites.

I came in here, just to play shuffleboard with the dusty shot glasses on the bar, kick around some empty peanut shells on the floor, and reminisce about the old days. Before turning out the lights and throwing away my key.

And damned if a bunch of the old crowd ain't here!

My Daughter is teaching math, and has me a red-headed Granddaughter.

My Son in Law is a great guy, we are going deer hunting Saturday.

I still don't work so good below the waist thanks to my back injury, but I have adapted, improvised, and overcome enough to enjoy building(slowly)and riding(mostly slowly)old motorcycles.

But I am picking up a 2005 BMW GS Wednesday, I have enough leg strength to hold it up so long as I keep it balanced.  lol

I have been picking Joe's brain and building me an AR this year at a pace of $100 a month. Just finished it this month, except for optics and mount.

So far I have:

Aero Precision upper, lower, and 15" handguard

Lothar Walther 16" barrel

SLR adjustable gas block and tube

Smiths Vortex flash hider

Larue MBT trigger

Ace Stock

Tony's custom uppers grip

Palmetto premium bolt group

I am thinking of adding a Larue scope mount and am looking at 1-6x24 scopes maybe a Vortex or a Primary Arms, or the Athlon Midas.

I haven't bought a Leupold since the Premier Reticle debaucle, and I don't like the leetle doughnuts on the Nikons 1-4

Any thoughts on "reasonably priced" glass for my new coyote carbine?

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Siloam Springs, AR, USA - Tuesday, November 8, 2016, at 02:24:14 (ZULU)


4I'S:  I have a little Nikon donut dialer on Raegan's rifle, and it is as dark as it is unreadable.  Next to it, on a LR308, I have a Vortex Viper PST 1-4x (MOA unit).  I picked it up at cameralandNY as a "demo" for just over 4 bills shipped.  On the 308, I thought the scope was lacking a bit....but, on that Ar15 it WILL blow away the Nikon's capability by light years and transmissions--much brighter. As Bravo has said, the 4x vortex is weak out past 600, hard to "ID" targets that blend in even slightly with background---a Nightforce it is not.  On an AR15---that should not be an issue.  

You said 1-6 range, which puts ya into the vortex HD line---decent enough, but at that price?  Budget is busted.  Thing is, many of the no-name brands popping up shop the same glass makers that these vortex guys do---so, I cannot speak to quality or clarity on other makes--but I suspect some are up there just because.  But, the Nikon 1" tube vs the vortex 30mm tube is a leap into better at a reasonable price for the 1-4x range scopes.  Moving to 1-6x ran me $1350 recently:-) And, it is either/ or---either a TRUE 1x, or a true 6x....no adjustments in between.  Thus, the 1x becomes a reflex setting, something worth having IMHO.  The Vortex has a slight bump in mag at 1x...enough to notice.  Raegan is getting that vortex...the LR308 is "for sale."  On her carbine--that scope rocks it.  

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Tuesday, November 8, 2016, at 14:42:11 (ZULU)


AR Receivers:

Any opinions/preferences as to materials T6061 vs T7075?

I know T7075 is a stronger alloy but is T6061 strong enough that for  what most people will use an AR for, the alloy won't make a difference?  Any stories?  Thanks.

Gerry

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Newberg, Oregon, - Tuesday, November 8, 2016, at 19:19:34 (ZULU)


Good to see you on here too Bill!

Let's hope (not the hopey changey stuff) that things get much better soon. Or much worse. I could take either one, because much worse will be the gateway to much better, and I don't mind ushering that change in.

And I do like the GI trigger, just with some tuning. I was informed that the stock GI trigger in an AR was a single-stage. Urk? What about all that take-up? Yeah, it's a single stage, it just has a ton of ugly take-up, which can be removed. So I asked for that, and received the same. It feels like a good boltgun trigger in the idea that it moves EXTREMELY little before going bang. Crisp break too, and to boot, extremely little over-travel. The reset is as crisp as the break. Most importantly NO ADJUSTMENT SCREWS. If it's a trigger, and has an adjustment, I'll shoot it loose. Even with loctite, even with ceramic paint. I don't do adjustable triggers any more.

Sean, come tomorrow I'm going to do the same thing I've been doing for decades. Regardless of who the Diebold machines self-vote for. For me it's not panic, just another day. Priorities might shift a bit, but the chorus or melody won't change. Speaking of "crazy granny clinton", I saw something last night that sums this situation up nicely. It said: "I found out that my grandfather was going to vote democrat this election. I would try to talk him out of it, but he died in 1989".

On an AR build (either flavor) I'd recommend some KNS pins. My OLD carbine (the only AR I still own) started doubling randomly, so of course I sent it in to figure out what was wrong. I'd worn the pin holes egg-shaped over time. The stop-gap answer is "use larger pins and a modular fire control group", but I should have bought KNS pins way back in '90 and not concerned myself with such things as wearing out receivers. You can bet I'm a believer in them now though.

And like Joe said, I gave those little 1-4X Vortex Viper PST optics a run. Three of them technically, since one of them was DOA out of the box. For a 5.56 I'd think they'd be just fine. I really like the EoTech-esque dot-doughnut on 1X, it works. It's not a straight 1X, but it's close enough that wobble isn't a factor while shooting on the move. The thing that made me look for a different scope was the lack of capability past 600 and that I'm not smarter than the optic. I was working movers at different ranges one day, and felt that I needed a wider field of view. Yeah, SFP reticle only works on 4X. So with FFP I'll have less to mess up. Kinda like missing a full revolution on a 1/4 MOA elevation dial, it's such a stupid mistake that it ruins the whole day. And it flatly sucks to dominate in a competition out to 600, then throw it all away because the targets aren't high-contrast.

The thing is, I want a optic with a true 1X low-end for use as a reflex sight. But I also want it to get up to at least 6X if not 8X at the high-end for use 'out there'. And FFP as well as a zero stop. Anything else? Heck yes! Cheap. And I realize that "cheap" is a relative term, so I'll say "as cheap as possible". 3500 bucks for a Leupy Mk8 need not apply..... that's NVD money right there!

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Tuesday, November 8, 2016, at 21:31:40 (ZULU)


What?

No fun commentary?

I figured today would be enough to get youse rats to celebrating.

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Wednesday, November 9, 2016, at 15:37:32 (ZULU)



Oh there is a lot to make comments on...  But there is that karma thing so I will say the week is off to a beautiful start.

Wish ya all a Safe Veterans Day,Thank You for your service

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stixville, wi, - Thursday, November 10, 2016, at 02:48:00 (ZULU)



I has moved... Gawd... I HATE moving.  It took MONTHS!! :(((((

I am still in CT, but I am now out in Moo-Cow country.  Nice dairy and chicken farm country with nice people - no one locks anything - no Lexus or Prius' - and no "Vote for Hillary" yard signs...

... lotsa "Trump" signs - lotsa Jeeps and pick-up trucks - I am home ('til I move to Virginia).

It took 6 weeks just to pack my basement and hand loading kit. :((

Sold a lot of guns to "down size", and make the trip easier - stuff I didn't shoot or want any more - I am now left with 31 long guns and I don't know how many handguns cuz there was three boxes, and one of the boxes is still hidden in a pile in the garage.  Probably 20 or 25 hand guns all together.

I found a lot of stuff I forgot I had.  I discovered that I now have more holsters than Imelda Marcos had shoes :)))))))

This time, I am going to be organized and make an inventory of my guns and serial numbers, and put them in a computer.

I discovered that I have a neighbor lady who raises chickens and sells eggs - she has a rat problem, and has shot 670 rats since the spring with her air rifle - her eyes lit up when I told her about my #1 Rat riffle - a Savage:

http://www.savagearms.com/firearms/model/64TRSR

It comes with a picatinny rail and threaded for a suppressor, right out of the box

I put on a starlight scope, and a "can".

As soon as I get unpacked, I have a friend (and free eggs) for life.

I also discovered that I own enough Colt 1911's and Browning High Powers, to start a revolution in a small country... and that is fine with me! (Both the pistols, AND the revolution ;)))

From the last place I lived, it was 45 minutes to the closest shooting range (100 yds), and 1.5 hours to my club's range(400 yds).

Now I am less than 1/3 of a mile from one of the most beautiful gun clubs I have ever seen - buried in the woods, on a river, and 100 yds rifle, and 25 yd pistol ranges - fire pits and barbecues, and neat clubhouse.

The club has owned the property since 1923, so the trees are 50+ feet tall, and there is never any wind on the 100 yd range because it is a tunnel in the forest, with a green canopy overhead, and I am much closer to my 400 yd range (now, 35 minutes).

Being a shooter and living 1/3 of a mile from a range, is like being a drunk and living across the street from "Clancy's Bar and Grill".

My loading room is a nice, an air conditioned bedroom, so no more dust and dirt falling down from the basement ceiling... all my guns(long, and hand guns) go in a locked space in the room.

[edit]... I was at the car service center yesterday, and the service guy is a farmer with 160 acres of hay.

I have locked up my first woodchuck shootin' farm - life is already getting better.

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Spring has sprung, da' creek has riz, I wonder where all dem kitties is? - Friday, November 11, 2016, at 16:32:53 (ZULU)



Glad to hear that the new digs meet your needs Lito.

Joe and Bravo, I have been wondering if a clear crisp 1-4x would be more usable that a mediocre 1-6x at around the same money. And truly a 1-4x would probably do what I needs doin'.

I would like a lighted reticle and 1x for those 'yotes that just appear off your elbow at dusk when you are calling, and 4x or 6x (cuz more is more better) for the ones that hang up at 2-300 yds. in shoulder deep grass and weeds.

I never tried Burris products, but http://swfa.com/Burris-15-6x42-MTAC-30mm-Rifle-Scope-P91804.aspx   has me curious too.

I didn't see any deer this morning, so we went back out after lunch and shot ARs.  :)

This was my first time shooting an AR and I shot one I built from bare receivers. After adjusting the gas block twice to get it opened up enough, it cycled the IMI ammo I was using flawlessly and stacked all my empties in a nice pile. :)

I got my MBUS sighted in needing a few adjustments to get right far enough, but only two to get on in elevation.

I think I will have to keep a close eye on myself to limit cant.

I can't think of anything I would change on it, really liking the trigger.

I bought a Savage bolt .22 a while back from Cabelas. While I liked the laminated stock it came in, but the scope suhuhhuuuhhuuucked. So I will be getting me a decent .22 scope too in the near future. As near as I can tell with the crappy optics, the rifle will be a shooter though.

And yeah, I didn't much care for having to have someone carry the gun out of the store for me either. Luckily I have a locally owned place that I have been doing business with for decades that has moved and expanded twice, and now has full indoor range facilities.

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Siloam Springs, AR, USA - Saturday, November 12, 2016, at 23:32:43 (ZULU)


Gerry, I looked at the material data on the two alloys a year or so ago because of the BS about buffer tubes.  6061 has about (IIRC) 2/3 of the tensile strength of 7075, but a higher shear strength.  

I'm not real sure how that plays out given the stresses in an AR upper/lower.  That said, the  7075 is usually a forging which produces a denser material with specific grain structure.  The few 6061 units I've seen are billet produced.  Someone gets a slab of alloy and starts machining.

Given that you're talking the basis of the firearm, with the serial number, I'd throw the extra bucks on forgings of T7075.

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Virginia, - Sunday, November 13, 2016, at 02:08:15 (ZULU)


I came across this on the DPMS website. http://www.dpmsinc.com/Geissele-2-Stage-G2S-Trigger_p_2679.html

I thought Geissles were in the $200+ range,could be I am thinkin of somethin else?   Anyway,it looks like a heck of a deal.

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stixville, wi, - Tuesday, November 15, 2016, at 16:35:09 (ZULU)


Geissele has a number of products ranging from prepped GI hammers and triggers for under $100 on up.  The top of their line is over $200.  They also have some triggers that seem to have most of the feature of the top of the line, but don't have the "G" name on them.

Hit their website.

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Ladysmith, Virginia, United States - Wednesday, November 16, 2016, at 22:52:30 (ZULU)


LaRue has there's on sale for $125 if you are patient:

http://www.larue.com/larue-tactical-mbt-2s-trigger

I really like the feel and non-adjustability of mine.

I am in the camp of, "If it is adjustable it will come loose at the worst possible moment".

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Siloam Springs, AR, USA - Thursday, November 17, 2016, at 16:29:38 (ZULU)


Geiselle has more trigger variations than I have remaining brain cells so I never bothered trying to keep up.  But I knew enough about high-end pricing to notice discounts--and they have been on sale at various outlets a lot lately.  Competition is a good thing.  I'm going to spend on a BCM "gunfighter" lower kit to get their take on an enhanced GI trigger (as well as some pins and springs for my daughter in laws 300 bkt....

LOL, it began 8 years ago with a desire to build a couple SPRs for my girls.  I started piling up the chosen "parts" in a box until rifles took shape, and I'd pull parts to make it....only to find parts left over....to make another....then another.....ARs are like potato chips....as long as I have a name in mind, I have a NEED to build one more.  Grandkids are freakin great excuses, two more rifles old man.  One is a red dot trainer, the other has a rudimentary Nikon ranging reticle on board.  My other hobby became AR10s...now in G2 clothing.

Knocking that G2 apart mangled a gas tube (my fault for locking the handguard without re-locking that friction lock at the base....whoops.  a few degrees of trash later and I have a new one.  Rockset----use warm water to solve it:-))  Not heat, not oil, not torque:-))  Plain ol' simple ass water works just fine.....And rockset beats barrel nut torques AND a gas tube:-))  So I got online and discovered no one knew any better than I did except these two people---both cracked that code using water---and damn if that was not the right answer!

On the lighter side, I bought a universal sight tool for drifting dovetails, and my son's anal retentive machinists tools measure the hairs on a gnat's ass---so, we are DiTY sight replacers now having night-sighted a little XDs with TruGlo TFOs (did not like the TFX--the bright outer circle actually constricts the tritium dot up front---rendering it less bright than the two rear dots imho)...not a far of truglo quality in the past, so will be keeping an eye on this little gun's working life....but, having found it EASY to measure and mark movements---this will put night sights on all the pistols.  The older operator's original sights faded to black, and the para never had them.  Father-son time is pretty awesome too.  I cannot "see" the measurements he is calling---and that amuses him to no end.  "Dad needs me." Hmm....shoulda tried that angle years ago:-))Oh, that these long tru glo units are snaggy tall with gaps under the lead edge...a holster-choice needs to consider that.  The leather IWB "sight groove" is tight, and the draw scrapes leather...not a good wear and tear thing.  

Bolt guns:  Looking at the Savage space gun in 300wm still.  Prolly my x-mas present.  Why the hell do they have two barrels in use between the space gun and the version in the HS stock version?  One is threaded, the other not.  Dumbassery cost savings.  Oh well, the PRS gets sold, the pistol grip gets run over by my ford, and the mess of a rail gets scrapped for cash value....and what is left starts to become the next big thing for LR fun....

Yup...I am planning to live, regardless of any tumor plans to the contrary.  Still waiting on a time-elapsed next picture to see wtf is going on.  In all, there are worse things....until it kills me, I shall feel great.  May as well enjoy that feature for all its worth...

 

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Sunday, November 20, 2016, at 15:08:23 (ZULU)



Hi guys,

It's been years since I've posted here. Nice to see many familiar names still posting.

Right now I'm having fun putting together a new Sauer SSG3000 in 30-06 with an original 20", 1-10" Sauer semiweight hunting barrel. I also have a 6,5x55 Blaser matchbarrel on order for this rifle. Fun fact: Blaser charges 1/3 of the price for SSG3000 barrels compared what they charge for R93 or R8 matchbarrels...

Regards,

Tor

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Oslo, Norway - Tuesday, November 22, 2016, at 15:17:05 (ZULU)


Torf...

I still have that picture of your "sister" that was passed around about 10 years ago :)))))))))))))))))))))))

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Spring has sprung, Da' creek has riz, I wonder where dem kitties is? - Thursday, November 24, 2016, at 06:19:36 (ZULU)


Happy thanksgiving to all!  

Except rockset, I hope rockset falls in a bucket of water!  Getting that crap out of everything threaded that touched this DPMS barrel (including the receivers threads....mess of a project.  

Good news is that I tossed a coin and picked the exact spacing on the new (and adjustable) gas block's set screws (two spacings offered, I "thought" I used the one I got once before...and thought right for once)...after I do dishes tonight, I may put that upper back together.....and tomorrow, I'll hunt with the other G2 (just covering back up for Aubrey the Red's harvest)--and after the morning crew gives up for lunch, I can quick zero this currently-disassembled riffle.  It's ridiculous to look at a bench with all these spare 'aiming devices" lying about awaiting new homes.  I just ordered a LPK for my daughter in law's 300BLK...only to rummage through my son's own kit (lazy boy--I finished his "parts pile" last Xmas, and he built a FAL instead)---but--I found a rogue LPK in a baggie---and it is so old I have no recollection from where I scavenged it:-))

I think our Geoff McCormick brought it out to the ol' farm years ago...now, having ordered another one....and that spare upper and this spare LPK and a whole bunch of miscellany...yup....there be a rifle growing in the garden again.  ARs and Doritos...just make more.

It's an addiction.  But I have a large family....and no one should be without:-))

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Thursday, November 24, 2016, at 17:03:36 (ZULU)


WR Moore,

  Thanks for replying to my question about aluminum alloys.  I also spoke to someone else and they were telling me that the 7075 was almost twice as strong in material strength but the 6061 was more corrosion resistant.  They also said based on the stress generated by the AR platform either alloy was more than adequate.  Just adds to the confusion...

Gerry

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Newberg, OR, USA - Friday, December 2, 2016, at 05:06:47 (ZULU)


Who turned out the lights?

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Winnipeg, Mb., Canada - Saturday, December 3, 2016, at 02:14:27 (ZULU)


Gerry:  I have three "SPR Mk12" configurations built.  Two of them using Vltor over-spec machined units, and the third using a spare upper forging found in a box.  All three have quality barrels (two Noveske, one FN CHF, all at 18")---and they all shoot very well, not a lick of difference between the over-spec and the mil-spec.  All three shoot better than I can, so I call it success across the board, but I spent too much at least twice:-))  The "better" of the three has an out-of-spec lower attached that I hogged into spec by hand with a dremel....mostly to seat the mag release so that it wouldn't be permanently released.  The channel was a bit proud.  Barrels make all the difference---receivers, if they fit together, are inconsequential against a decent trigger and barrel combo.

That outcome was predicted here, years ago:-)) I had to $ee for myself tho.

The good news is we get to watch the economy unwind around a dead dollar WITHOUT Hillary there to make it worse:-))  The bad news is we get to watch the dollar die nonetheless.  It is not the valuations that will crush us....it is the debt loads around the globe going into default---insured in dollars that will be painful as hell.  The economy---YOU and I trading our spare stuff---is ALWAYS and endures---that is NOT and never has been my warning---the unit that measures the economy?  That is the yardstick called the dollar.  For decades now that yardstick has been made of rubber, and lately, the elastic additive is near total.  The economy cannot fail....but the dollar sure as hell can.  

Europe has a debt load from hell, and socializing it is "unpopular."   People, as it all turns out, only want to socialize profit, not pain:-))

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Sunday, December 4, 2016, at 13:45:50 (ZULU)


Sooo...

Picked up the pieces from the divorce, moved, got a new job, kids are in a good place...

Back to guns.

I have an AR10 with a stock 16" barrel which has the threads torn to hell from removing a pinned comp.   Any suggestions on a good replacement barrel?    I'd love to build up a real light, compact, 308 carbine.  16-18" barrel, would 1-2MOA be possible without too much fuss?

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Monday, December 5, 2016, at 14:19:48 (ZULU)


Jim, I'm really sorry to hear about it 'not working out', but I do hope for your sake that it's the best in the end. I know mine was hell while I was going through it, but if I'd known what was waiting on the other side of all that hell, I would have volunteered for it.

On your 16" 308 AR, I've got to say that I'm impressed with Joe's. I'm not impressed enough with it to buy my own, but that's more a matter of me not having the money to buy my own AND buy groceries. Yeah, trivial details like that.

I do, however, see myself buying one once I'm out from under a little more debt.

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Monday, December 5, 2016, at 15:58:34 (ZULU)


MedicJim:  Try looking at Palmetto State Armory.  They contract with FN nearby for "SOME" of their barrels and they are my go-to for uncommonly "accurate" carbine-carry-length barrels.  PSA launched their own AR10 line up, and sell parts and pieces shamelessly.  If nothing else, it's a place for comparative shopping for price ranges.

Barrels WERE a commonality among many AR10 variants....UNTIL the DPMS G2....that has a new diameter at the extension altogether.  My old-style AR10 were both DPMS "low profile receivers"--important to know because the handguard systems for a high-profile receiver looks silly.  Two standards, one manufacturer?  No, three---DPMS G2 is yet a THIRD dimension on the receivers:-))  Specification stew.....it is as crazy as everyone here once warned.  

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Tuesday, December 6, 2016, at 12:43:32 (ZULU)


Thanks for the responses,

In terms of barrel length, does the difference between 16-18" make a huge difference.  I am inclined to go with 16 unless otherwise directed.

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Tuesday, December 6, 2016, at 14:57:44 (ZULU)


I used to be a strict proponent of "longer than 16 inches" for a 308 barrel. In my opinion, they're just that much more 'well mannered'. Significantly less flash and concussion - the Belgians had it right with their bush rifles. The velocity difference on trajectory isn't dramatic enough to be a concern IMHO - your dope is your dope.

That having been said, since I'm apt to run a can on a 308 now, I have a lesser concern over such things.

And my perception of muzzle brakes versus flash suppressors has changed somewhat too. Now I've got less problem with running a can mount / muzzle brake combo device than I did previously. I'd even experiment with one of those hybrid flash hider / muzzle brake combos, but they don't make one that works with my can.

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Tuesday, December 6, 2016, at 16:47:02 (ZULU)



Bravo has a point.  All it took was dropping the hammer on a ridiculously lite G2 308 four times, and stopping to make sure it didn't shrivel into a 5.56...it was that tamed.  My heavier LR308 version (1st attempt) had a flash hider and far more heft, but wasn't nearly as fast on followups.  Nor was it as handy as this evolved G2 version.

Speaking of evolving....I was fine with 5.56mm all over the world.  I didn't know it at the time, but that FINE feeling had a caveat:  Someone else buys the ammo, and dudes with trucks will bring it to me on demand:-))  If it takes half a mag, so what?  Taxpayers always buys us  more.

So yeah, now I buys my own.  It's .308.  5.56mm, of which I have plenty, is for training, smaller humans and my kids/ grandkids.  This G2 has thoroughly ruined me.  Now, an Ar15 feels like a scale model of a real rifle....and someday, once production meets current demand, rebarrelling on ANY cartridge based on the case will be a cinch.  243, 260, 7mm-08, etc.

Unless I am a year away from a catastrophic failure that shows no signs of ever happening (other guys are harder on theirs than I am, and I'm not exactly being nice), this new DPMS design will drive the older LR308 large frames off the market.  

One of the improvements is ejection.  Doubled the spring force by doubling the plungers and cutting the port back ever so slightly.  The single ejector on the LR binds and loses oomph when hot/ filthy, and the shorter port conspires to leaving spents in the receiver....And there is a fix:  here is something I am getting for my LR-based SASS:

https://www.kakindustry.com/kak-industry-bcg-308

And this extractor is backwards-compatible between G2 and LR308s:

http://www.dpmsinc.com/DPMS-G2-Extractor-and-Elastomer-Spring-Kit_p_2521.html

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Wednesday, December 7, 2016, at 17:58:43 (ZULU)


Barrels- I'd give Rock River a check.  Brownells also has an interesting selection.

Sometime back I saw a Palmetto ad about "thick plated barrels" and their superiority for heavy fire volume.  The only way I can think of to get a thicker plate is that someone screwed up on the timer or someone decided to try to plate oversize bores back to spec.  Since the standard plate is about 0.0001 inch, it isn't much, but the whole thing gave me a bad feeling.

But, if you've been happy, works for me.

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Virginia, - Saturday, December 10, 2016, at 01:48:07 (ZULU)


PSA has three lines of quality.  I only deal with their FN-contract stuff.  

FN alone KNOWS how to line a barrel.  I'll stand by that, as too many of their barrels stood by me not to:-))

I think my Gen 1 SPR will outlive my new grandbabies for that chrome in the barrel....and yes, I use this one over the GAP by habit:-))

One thing about PSA:  You MUST know all about that product---they sure as hell do not:-))  I ordered a 8.5" barrel, and asked "what is the barrel thread size and pitch?  I could have asked for the ID of JFK's real assassin and gotten a straighter answer.  It was 5/8 not 1/2....but they flipped a coin and said 1/2" anyway.  Glad I waited to buy the QD devices until I checked for myself.  

DPMS is the SAME about their G2.  They used rockset, but the rep denied the use of rockset.  Thankfully others did the same deed, and knew the deal.  That was the first time I wondered if I was about to destroy a receiver:-))

BUT questioner beware!  These reps know less than you do:-))

Bravo?  I KNOW you dealt with worse:-))

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Saturday, December 10, 2016, at 22:15:33 (ZULU)



Have to pose a question.  The other day I was startled to see a military transport flying over my pasture at what was surely less than minimum FAA height, but not nap of the earth.

OK, what in our current inventory has a T tail, two honking great turbofans slung under the wings and those winglet widgets on the wingtips?

I sort of assume they'd been playing games at AP Hill, but we're too far away for them to be still that low.  

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Virginia, - Monday, December 12, 2016, at 01:20:29 (ZULU)


Company reps! HA!

Some actually know what they're talking about - many have no clue. I've gone the rounds with DPMS too, and I'll tell you this: the company reps have essentially nothing that the catalog doesn't explain with less frustration.

So here's a question: How do you improve customer support at HK or Glock?

Move them to the bottom of the Atlantic.

Bill, I figure this is too elementary of an answer, but your description first made me think of the Warthog. A-10. I love those things - low and slow is their MO.

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Monday, December 12, 2016, at 15:43:54 (ZULU)


Bill:  O first assumed a "high wing" design per military preference for the same.  But, that needs asked.

If it is, I am thinking that Navy carrier type design, and FEDEX flies a similar civilian variant of that jet.  Canadian manufacture, I think.  My thought was whatever corporate name "Southern Air Transport" flies under these days, they are nearby and they have damn near anything with wings.  And, often in the low level or nap profile.  low-level and noe corridors are all over the place up and down the mountains back east.  I hit one once from due east of Va beach all the way to Mass, remembered mainly because of the hangover and JM duties.  Barf.

As I sit here trying to remember makes and models, I am laughing.  Apparently, I used to know that stuff; they gave me a pair of stingers and set me loose:-))

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Tuesday, December 13, 2016, at 19:47:45 (ZULU)


Believe it's a variant of something the airlines fly.  Can't keep track of Boeing model numbers.  Wasn't really looking at wing position, the size of the underslung turbofan I could see on my side was mind boggling.  The T tail seems to eliminate Boeing.

The matte dark gray finish all over didn't do much to help note features either.  Poking through internet sites for Boeing, Lockheed and a couple others provided no joy.

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Virginia, - Wednesday, December 14, 2016, at 01:05:28 (ZULU)


How about a C-17? Fits the description.

Sarge

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Southern Area 51, NM, USA - Thursday, December 15, 2016, at 00:39:09 (ZULU)


I've  come to the conclusion it must have been a C17.  The only pix I've seen show 4 engines, maybe the sight angle allowed the outboard engine to mask the inboard.

While the terrain around me is pretty flat, the AC needs some counseling.  Any problems would resulted in a pretty messy result. Ain't the most outrageous flying I've seen locally though.  That is still the Intruder pilot imitating a speedboat on Virginia's second largest lake.

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yb, Virginia, - Friday, December 16, 2016, at 01:18:32 (ZULU)


Holy Moly....the joint's jumpin' again!

After a couple years goofing off, contracting again, working for ICE. Just got back from Bangladesh and China, repatriating illegal aliens. Most of my time is spent in Central America, that's where most of our problems originate, with Asia making a bid for number one.

Still shooting. Got the AR10, oh, excuse me, the DPMS LR 308 (ha!) is purring smoothly. When I get the chance, we've been running balls to the wall for a couple months.

Good to see all you guys hanging out.

Cheers! We now have Hope, for a change!

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Spring Branch, Texas, USA - Friday, December 23, 2016, at 04:13:05 (ZULU)


Merry Christmas to all y'all.

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Siloam Springs, AR, USA - Friday, December 23, 2016, at 14:52:35 (ZULU)


First off: Merry Christmas to ya All....And it feels damned good to say it that way too.Sure hope that PC crap goes the way of the Dodo bird.

Well, after I dont know how many trips for MRI's, a spinal tap and goin rounds with the doc of the week.5 days of IV steroid treatments,We finally got an answer for My Angel.  Transverse Myelitis.A fancy term to mean that the mylar(coating) of the spinal cord is being broken down.Since she has Lupus it cant be MS but they are gonna treat it along the same lines.It (damage) isnt reversable but at least they can slow it down.

The farm equipment is slowly gettin back into workin order again and the White (MM) 585 has a plan thats starting to take some shape. We are gonna set it up with some Mack pistons

If and when I ever get around to finishing the AR15 build I started I had planned on running a Krieger barrel on it.They are about 45 miles from here. https://kriegerbarrels.com/

You all take care and have a Safe Happy New year

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Stixville, Wi, - Friday, December 23, 2016, at 22:25:49 (ZULU)


Merry Christmas to all of you!

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San Antonio, Texas, USA - Saturday, December 24, 2016, at 14:57:41 (ZULU)


Merry Christmas to all of you!

Getting old sucks. My lovely wife, who just turned 65, is dealing with what is probably brachial neuritis, which involves severe shoulder and arm pain, as well as weakness and numbness in the affected arm. An electromyography leans toward that as an explanation, rather than cervical nerve compression, which may cause similar symptoms - and she has herniated disks at C5-C6 and C6-C7. There is no treatment for brachial neuritis, which usually gets better over time, so a spinal fusion operation to correct the herniated disks is on hold, for now, until the diagnosis becomes more certain - if the happens. So, getting older sucks, but better than the alternative.

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Spring Branch, TX, Northern Occupied Territory of Mexico - Saturday, December 24, 2016, at 17:46:24 (ZULU)


Merry Christmas everyone!!

JLU

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Oconomowoc, Wisconsin, - Saturday, December 24, 2016, at 18:31:16 (ZULU)


Merry Christmas, Happy Holidays and a Happy New Year to all!  And to all a good night.

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Virginia, - Saturday, December 24, 2016, at 20:38:13 (ZULU)


And a Merry Christmas to you, one and all.  To follow up with a definite Happy New Year.  And you know that includes a tip and a pour.

Merry Ho Ho,

Happy Ha Ha,

Remember and Respect.

Surround yourselves with loved-ones, not just today, not just this week, but continuously.... because as stated above, the alternative sucks.

Now, some of ya'll coming up to Canada needs to bring some AR10 parts with ya's.  Reasonably Priced items are definitely needed up here, not to mention more quality selection. ITARd laws suck!

Just call 'em "parts for your shaver".... yeah, that's it!!!!

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Winnipeg, Mb., Canada - Sunday, December 25, 2016, at 18:45:26 (ZULU)


Gents,

The I am back in battle.  I miss my Field Marshall dearly.  She knew how to handle what is best described as confusion and agenda within my medical team.  I set them straight on a trial in Miami already.  Not qualified?  Look again.  

This one is diffuse, and rather touchy in location.  Inop, but easily "biopsied."  A Biopsy is a partial resection.  THAT is allowed:-))  Why am I supposed to know this?  Yesterday, I ask, what's the hold up?  (Monday was the MRI-shock.  "Need to rule out Lymphoma."  Occam will cut you with a razor!   So, they tell me a biopsy is needed---and I tell them, ah-ha--I am eligible for that study.  Fools.   But, my fools:-)) My wife did all this before.  What happens if I take steroids to shrink the tumor?  "It masks the lymphoma. " Ummm, so let's do it, and if it masks, it was lymphoma:-))  "We can try that>"  

Wait til they get my bill!

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Thursday, January 12, 2017, at 00:15:06 (ZULU)


The medical folks do tend to get overly focused on what's trendy or their specialty.  Couple of years ago the wife was in for surgery and in recovery had a wildly fluctuating blood pressure/heart rate.  

Solution: Pacemaker!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  After the battery drains down and the replacement surgery develops MERSA, they pull the pacemaker.  After they notice there's no issues, they review records and decided she didn't need the pacemaker in the first place.

And we pay these people?

Good luck.

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Virginia, - Friday, January 13, 2017, at 23:28:10 (ZULU)



Inauguration coming up and the garbage going out.

Howdy, hogs!

It's been forever since I've been here.  Since I retired from the Army I moved from New Mexico to Utah and back to Texas where I'm teaching Army ROTC at Texas A&M -- gone full circle.

Where I used to have a 1,000-yard rifle range and pistol bays to a 25-yard 50 BMG-capable indoor range ten minutes away, with unlimited desert to shoot as far as you can see -- and back to a place where there's a 45-foot indoor pistol range with poor ventilation.  Sigh.

Ken, Joe, and all others with mates or personal medical dramas I'm with you in that boat, brothers.  Parents are in OK health and I'm recovering from some gnarly cervical spine surgery to fix what 31 years under the Dome of Obedience caused.

So many interesting things in my little exposure to the gun world.

The Civilian Marksmanship Program has authorized 1-4 power scopes this year for all M16s and M4s competing in Excellence-in-Competition leg matches and Camp Perry.  Surely a few scopes will start to separate form the crowd for 1/4 minute clicks, clarity, and repeatability.  So far March, Nightforce, Vortex, and perhaps Leupold are showing promise.

There's goodness in the RCBS Chargemaster.

Nitriding barrels seems to be the new thing for precision rifles but not those meant for mag-dumps and full auto.

The Giraud trimmer has made my life many times easier for trimming bunches and bunches of cases.  

I made the investment in a used Ken Light case annealing machine and it's made me a believer.

My son did an internship with Bill Geissele of Geissele Automatics (Geissele triggers).  That man is a personal friend and a great patriot.  He arrived in this country at a very young age with his mother, an MD, during the Hungarian occupation by the Russians.  Not knowing any English he grew up working in motorcycle shops, took ten years to get his Mechanical Engineering degree, and ended up working in mining and the railroads.

Not finding a trigger he thought was worth a darn for National Match M16s he made one.  I asked him to make a select-fire version.  Fast-forward and one of his triggers shoots Usama Bin Laden in the face.

Last project was re-barreling one of the AR-10s to a 16-inch Criterion with rifle-length gas.  Jury's still out on the precision potential as I have to find a place to stretch it out.

Just bought a Frankford Arsenal wet-tumbler to see if it gets cases as clean as I'm reading about.

Sierra now has tipped Match Kings, Hornady has heat-resistant tips to maintain BCs, and Federal is going to start carrying Gold Medal Match with Berger bullets.

6.5 Grendel is gaining momentum as a big-bore that will fit in an M16/AR frame -- with high-BC bullets and energy to carry past 1,000-yards.

In the last few years I find my favorite pistol is a basic one I re-built from a raw 1920 Colt Government Model frame.  It has Harrison Retro old man sights because I can no longer see close up without cheaters.

The last very large mule deer I shot was with a 308 700V at 354 laser-ranged yards at 10,000 feet above sea level.  My buddy shot another one that flopped down less than 50 feet away.  We quartered and packed those things out (multiple trips) to my truck 2 miles away.  This getting old stuff ain't fun.

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College Station, Texas, - Tuesday, January 17, 2017, at 01:03:59 (ZULU)


Joe M - you are in my thoughts. This getting old stuff really sucks.

Sinister,

I may well be down in that area to attend Fire Officer 3 & 4 next year... Texas A&M offers a power course... a couple weeks or so to complete both.  At 50, I'm back into leadership in the fire service in a big way.  

The wet tumbler does indeed work well...  a little dawn and some Lemi shine with the stainless media and everything comes out clean.... biggest problem is getting them dry.  The crud coming off the cases is some toxic liquid, handle with care.

 

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Tuesday, January 17, 2017, at 14:08:51 (ZULU)


TEST

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Wednesday, January 18, 2017, at 14:20:36 (ZULU)


I see some activity here. That's good. What your thoughts on the 6.8  SPC round. Want something with a little more umph for coyotes Going with a WOA upper.  

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Thursday, January 19, 2017, at 15:47:33 (ZULU)


Sinister, good,to,hear from you again.

Took a load of Somalis to the Federal collection facili in Louisiana yesterday. Was with those idiots for almost 14 hours. I'd forgotten why I hated Mogadishu so much the first time, now I get to go back again next week. With these same asshats.

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Spring Branch, Tejas, USA - Thursday, January 19, 2017, at 16:29:26 (ZULU)



Jim, not being a hazmat guy -- what's the best thing to do with the nasty water?  Put it down the utility drain or put it on the lawn?  Not kidding, but I haven't run the darn thing yet.

Gary, I'd look at the 6.5 Grendel as opposed to the 6.8 for a drop-on upper or if you're swapping out barrel and bolt and getting new magazines.  There are all kinds of very, very good 6.5mm bullets out there.

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College Station, The Lone Star State, US of A - Sunday, January 22, 2017, at 01:19:51 (ZULU)


I picked up a FN AR 15 Tactical Carbine. , weight wise it's got me     spoiled. I've lugging around my DPMS LR 308 B. It's like carrying a boat anchor compared to the FN. That's why the 6.8 came to mind. Something I could put on a spare AR 15 lower I have.

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Sunday, January 22, 2017, at 12:01:16 (ZULU)


Gary, I think you'd be very pleased with the performance options with the Grendel, especially for coyotes, pigs, and deer.

I totally understand concern for weight with the LR-308/AR-10/SR-25 guns -- they can become pigs, especially at high mountain altitudes.  I found my weapon handling got sloppier the thinner the breathing atmosphere and the heavier the weapon and load I had to hump.

It didn't help the bigger the game and the farther away from the truck or trail head you had to hump the quarters back.

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Fort Benning, Home of the Infantry, Georgia, US of A - Sunday, January 22, 2017, at 18:16:30 (ZULU)


Sinister

Were thinking along the same lines. I'm either getting lazy, weaker or older. I'm thinking the latter two of the three. I'm going to look into an Alexander upper, or is there a better choice.

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Monday, January 23, 2017, at 13:15:20 (ZULU)


I haven't checked in here in a very long time. Glad to see some activity again.

I still remember my first post as a dumb new guy in '99/'00-ish. I was an across the course shooter at the time asking for advice on rifles for bolt gun tac matches. Bought an SCLE rifle, rebuilt it 4 times into something totally different then sold it.

I started building my own rifles on a friends lathe and then officially opened Spartan Precision Rifles in 2010. By the grace of God I've been back logged with work since day one.

Last year a customer came in with a like new SCLE rifle that he wanted me to rebarrel in 260. I talked him into trading with me for a new gun so I now have another SCLE rifle that I will never sell or change. Well except for the KMW Loggerhead adjustable cheek piece that Joe Ducos installed for me but it really needed that! George bought one of my group build guns I did for Sniper's Hide too so that was fun for me to build and we got some good laughs over it.

Medicjim- You were one of my first customers and I think you got a 6BR. Do you still have it?

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San Jose, CA, - Monday, January 23, 2017, at 16:04:15 (ZULU)


Sinister - That liquid coming off the cases will contain heavy metals and other chemicals that are genuinely toxic to humans.  If you live somewhere that the sewage treatment services a city, the best approach is to dump it down the toilet...  the treatment plant will handle it safely.  If you are in the country, you probably want to pour the liquid into a cookie tray or similar and let it dry, then bag the residue and treat as hazardous waste...   wear gloves and a hepa mask when working with the dust...   and wash up afterwards.

Same for tumblers, they produce dust which you can breathe in or it can settle on the ground...    don't run it anywhere kids or pets you care about are present.

MarcS- I own one of George Gardner's first 308 builds,   I also have SCLE #11 which was the only one he built in .260.  You built me a 6mmBr.  I will NEVER part with any of them... I consider them part of the history of our art.

I am about a year away from really recovering from the massive financial hit I took in the divorce.  I bought out my alimony, so I am poor as dirt right now, but FREE...completely FREE.  I will be sending you that 6mmBR back, with a list of tweaks  I want.  I love that rifle and it is my go to for varmint work...   Nothing better than taking moving woodchucks at 600 at dusk while my cop buddies laugh about how I will never make the shot :-)

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Monday, January 23, 2017, at 16:27:01 (ZULU)


Gary, I think Bill Alexander builds a dandy 6.5 Grendel -- and full disclosure I don't and haven't owned one but have a buddy that has maybe a half-dozen.

My boss just asked me what I thought about 6.5 Creedmoor in a bolt gun.  Can't go wrong with that one, either.  

Mark, I'm very glad to hear the biz is thriving.  I always thought you would, especially out there in California.

Thanks, Jim -- you pretty much hit on the head what I worry about.  I've always tried using my Dillon media separator outside to avoid breathing the dust.  I no longer live out in the country but back in the 'burbs on municipal water.

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College Station, Texas, US of A - Tuesday, January 24, 2017, at 02:30:53 (ZULU)


Got to looking around on the net. JP Ent., Precision Arms, Wilson, Radical Arms. There's a lot of good names out there. Just comes down to how much you want to spend.

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Tuesday, January 24, 2017, at 12:45:07 (ZULU)


Joe didn't mention it - so I will.

He started a GoFundMe page. I contributed, as have others. If you know Joe, you know he wouldn't have unless the situation is serious. Here's the link:

https://www.gofundme.com/wv394ds-joes-medical-fund/donate

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Spring Branch, TX, Northern Occupied Territory of Mexico - Thursday, January 26, 2017, at 04:05:12 (ZULU)


Suddenly battling cancer.  Years ago, I moved off the farm (preservation, those fools were happy to burn it down with lawyers, and I cut a deal to get my kids as irrevocable on their trust, and walked.  Bummer, but, long views prevailed. A nice place was up, and the markets were TIGHT for mortgages, and the couple wanted a land contract.  And so did I.  All is well, until my wife died suddenly.  In between DEERS (my insurance) and hers lapsing, she lost a lung.  BAM.  This state is community property.  MASSIVE bills fell in my credit, and, I did the math, and began whittling.  My target to mortgage the place is/ was this July---all could be "handled" by then.  Why?

Two reasons.  The contract is not able to be attached to my trust, it expires with me.  Roughly 6 years of apportioned equity built in, a NICE down payment on paper.  Second is the option clause, "in the event of" in this case, divorce.  Called the option.  well, I prayed them back together, and advised old boy with a full-curt press against himself.  He took that to heart, and we have breathing room out 6 months.  Bam...here come my own medical copays (nowhere near as bad as my wife's, her plan was terrible, and cancelled before she received notice.  My illness caused her to overfly a sabbatical, and that was that.

No problems, I can write checks depressed.  So, whittling began.  My midlife crisis Ferrari looks like a pile of cancelled checks over these years...I was nailing it.  I had time, or so it seemed.  If I kick it, the kids can pay cash....but, not with current contracted equity.  Old boy is a good dude, and said he'd honor it, but, I have a legal honoring I prefer right now.  

So, I pictured myself out of the picture, and realized how screwed my kids are.  With me eating chemo, it is NO TIME to move.  This has been their home for 6 years now.  The right thing to do?  First, something I would not, but for my kids: Pull down that pride and ask for help.

For my kids, I will move mountains.  Yes, even my ego near that size is not standing between kids and I...so I asked for help.  It hurt.  But the help, these are tears of joy.  I just paid the last of Sacred Heart --something my plan had scheduled over the next two months. Mayo is next:-))  Her credit cards were hit or miss, some accepted the death cert, some KNEW WI law and pursed.  One left.  Some of that is another man's debts from her prior...yeah...outta my kids mouths.  Grrr.

This system with her bills?  Same one working on me now.  good graces is probably smart anyway, eh?  

So yeah, there it is.  Rifles?  You bet...but the kids will contacting all of you to do that right--no fire sales I hoped.  IF I fail my fight, they know to talk to the hawgs for advice, first dibs etc.  No dumbasses looking at generics with generic price point mentality/ But hey, that bridge is over the horizon, right?  

In any case--I am in a hurry end high end musketry isn't a fast paced market.  

Swallowed hard, and said help?

And the cavalry arrived.  My kids are blown away.  You see, after she passed, my world shrank into a small point near them.  No dating, still feels married to me, no partying, grew out of it, just dad all up in their grill and nowhere else.

They thought I had no friends, a sad man lonely on the plains.  HA!

The prayers and wished poured in, along with donations.  They realized I was NOT walking life alone, not all. And guys, as I was reviewing my will in the lawyers NOT fun),  Alexandra my daughter (in law, grudgingly added) read the messages.  I Cried....I had been stoic about it till then.   But the tension was really building up in there.  

This thing works as advertised.  I Risked a stand alone savings account though.  I thought about putting my mailing addy in the page, but that seemed too much in one place for ID defense.  I PM it around though...I think it may not be to some folks liking and hey, I need prayers MOST of all.  

My son's wife Alex.  She was touched, ever so briefly by my darling.  That effect was LASTING:  She is following in my wife's footsteps on a shared GI bill--BSN nursing track.  Blake used his half for a machinist program, landed a great job, and put insurance on his wife and my two grandbabies.  The kid learned my lesson!  Good on him.  They are here with me of course.

I'm losing my left eye piece by piece, and cannot drive....safely.  I said so.  Doc will be making it official after the exam.  I insisted.  Who knows what stupid these steroids might inflict?  Preempted myself--I know how stubborn I am about what I want:-))

This is an aggressive cancer if we cannot get ahead of it with slowdown chemo.  I'm not operable, too deep in da head...too many critical areas for radiation.  Half the Army is on the sidelines, but we battle with the army we got.  Rejected by two studies already...

There's the SITREP...and I had few good choices.  One possible loss, but not the home on top....moving fast to prevent this.  I cosign for my boy soon enough.

Given the weeks needed.  Pray for that time.  I need to secure this little clan before things get intense.  

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Friday, January 27, 2017, at 04:59:39 (ZULU)


Gents,

January into February was an experience.  The tumor decided to grow rapidly, and I went into seizures.  I woke up surrounded by folks we all know from here, friends of the family variety.  I had to go under to halt the seizures, and my doc brought out the big gun chemo as I had asked "in case of emergency."  My daughter in law, my POA, has simpler instruction--put me in a place to fight, and I will.  Between the two of them, I had a fighting chance.  I woke up coming off the ventilator, but was hallucinating wildly.  That was not cool at all.  BUT.  familiar voices were there, and I knew that was reality, not those visuals.  Thank you God for providing such deep friendships unto family levels...this was key and cannot be stressed enough.  

Yesterday, we had the newest MRI side by side with the UGLY one taken upon admittance.  My oncologist, brilliant lady, used a word I was expecting in my renewed faith.  "A miracle."  The ugly thing was half the size it was.  And, my blood counts and organ function tests indicated an aggressive path is available--so round two of the chemical cocktail was given yesterday.  Between prayer on the healing of his stripes, the outpouring of love from all points of the compass and this toxic brew--fighting back at last and feeling good as we do!  

It is bumping 50 out here today, I am going to walk the block.  Gotta keep moving to prevent side effects from stacking up.  Set for round 3 on the 3rd.  

I am told I was most reluctant to be admitted.  Yeah...I thought I wasn't coming out of that mess.  Miracle?  I cannot argue with this.  Nope.  It was.  I am still in this fight.

I've played my beliefs close hold for years.  Command made it prudent and I preferred example to words to express this. That has changed much recently, as I take my belief and work harder on the FAITH that goes with it.  Taking my will out wasn't easy.  Is NOT easy.  But I have perfect faith that prayer got me through this one.  Had you listened to the hospital room conversations and then attended my new church last Sunday, you wouldn't call that a coincidence.  The entire service encompassed our talks in that room.  Powerful moment, and it stunned us all to tears.  

Coming home was big enough, but that message and several more?  Wow!

My kids...troopers all.  They rose up as I did, and seeing fear turn to love? Made my day.  

Home?  Wow. I am home, and back in this fight.  

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Saturday, February 18, 2017, at 21:49:28 (ZULU)


JoeM- my wife suggested I advise you that Duke University has had outstanding results on brain tumors using actual polio virus.  They apparently manage to keep you from getting polio.

Good to hear you're doing well.  Keep up the fight!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Ladysmith, Virginia, United States - Saturday, February 25, 2017, at 01:14:03 (ZULU)


My oncologist has this one with polio in our sights.  Initially, I was not a good candidate due to "location"--but with this chemo tearing it up, that may change or already has.  The trial is ongoing at NIH for this as well.  I have three "complete" records on hand, disc/ hard copies to send off, but my oncologist is also shopping me around.  She's a great ally.  I guess I won her over by hanging in but this last time, she broke the seal on the combo therapy and got great results--next MRI will tell us what possibilities may exist.  The Duke trial is one of several.  Possibly the best.  

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Saturday, February 25, 2017, at 23:23:53 (ZULU)


Damn, Joe.  Hang in there.  Free prayers out there in the ether for you.

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College Station, Texas, US of A - Tuesday, February 28, 2017, at 03:40:19 (ZULU)


Cut and paste update....man, the chemo can be rough on sleep:-) Had that binary IV yesterday:  

Chemo treatment number 3 is on board and killing that cancer right now!

My blood counts were "miraculous" and my oncologist went there twice with that very word--apparently, on entry to the hospital when things went south, "expectant" was debated on triage, and "palliative" received a few votes in the ER (not from my team though). Just leaving to go home my doc sees as miracle number one.

I asked, the usual course for this combo is six months, tolerance dependent. My tolerance to this treatment overall after all I went through thus far was called "miracle number two" by her.

She ordered an early MRI--looking for miracle number three. The impetus was my vision--IT HAS IMPROVED!!!!!! My periphery has widened up in my left eye--not just halting the degradation, but IMPROVING my field of view noticeably!

My blood counts remaining so high and liver and kidney functions staying in the high end of normal allows a continued aggressive course of action, round four is set for March 17th. Folks, this is God's hand at work. Thank you all for your prayers, love and thoughts.

In celebration of a great day, great news---yup--low-sugar Strawberry oatmeal infused with sterilized fresh strawberries! And 40 ounces of water...

When the ENEMY is routed, you pursue with alacrity.

Here We come, cancer--right at you with alacrity and resolve!

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Saturday, March 4, 2017, at 20:18:25 (ZULU)


Joe: sorry to hear about your relapse but happy that you seem to be responding so well to therapy. If I thought me praying would help, I'd pray.  

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Saturday, April 1, 2017, at 18:54:48 (ZULU)


Joe: sorry to hear about your relapse but happy that you seem to be responding so well to therapy. If I thought me praying would help, I'd pray.  

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Sunday, April 2, 2017, at 00:02:11 (ZULU)



Seems like our family has had some hard times.

I had my own ammunition company, and it was doing great - I could sell more than I could make.  Then the state passed new gun laws that put me out of business.

A few months ago, I walked away from the old house - a three story monster cave that was empty (Ruggus Rattus gave up his Leggos and is now running nuclear reactors on US Navy attack submarines).  The house was so upside-down, that the basement had a sun deck... I took my tools, work benches, and small stuff.

I left behind a lot of the large furniture, dropped the keys in the slot, and never looked back (well, maybe a little).

I sold a lotta guns, and I'm now down to 31 riffles, 25 handguns, and 4 shotguns... and that sucks!!!!

I moved in with a friend over in Windham, CT, which is in dairy farm country, and I'm starting all over again (this starting over again shit is really getting old).

One nice thing about the move - after I was settled in and put my stuff away, I got on Google Earth to see what kinda countryside I lived in - my God, I moved to Woodchuck Central. I am surrounded by huge chunks of hay and alpha fields... and spring is here :)))

Jim... I feel your financial pain - even though my divorce was done a longtime ago, the financial repercussions echo throughout your life, long after you forgot her name.

I have a lawsuit against Lyman (the handloading folks), that was just moved up from state court to federal court.

Lyman is a company that when you peal back the cover, there is nothing inside of it - no one in the company knows anything about handloading - their "ballistic expurt" just let slip in the new handloading book, that it took him 30+ years to learn how to adjust a FL sizing die - my Gawd, no wonder they hit the bottom of the industry!

Health is kinda OK - a touch of Parkinson's, but the doc said that since it came on so late in life, it will never get badd - I can still shoot with a 2 ounce trigger in the field, and edit pixel by pixel in Photoshop, so I am OK for now.... but, as I am sure you all have heard before - getting old sucks!!

Meowski!

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Spring has sprung, da' creek has riz, I wonder where dem kitties is? - Sunday, April 9, 2017, at 15:06:09 (ZULU)


Hello one and all, and Happy Hassenpfeffer Day!

While we here are sorry to hear about the tribulations that are being had, by so many,,,, we are at the same time quite grateful that you're here to tell us about them.

Much to that.

Progress reports from all, and their kin, is appreciated.  Make's me wonder how Andy's doing, and what's up with Andy's Dad.  Etc.

From a LONG time ago....

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Winnipeg, Mb., Canada - Sunday, April 16, 2017, at 16:49:51 (ZULU)


Guys,

If you're of a mind to, I respectfully ask that you pray for Major Joe.

He took a turn for the worst this weekend and right now things aren't looking good for him.

I don't pretend to understand why these things happen, but I do know there's a reason - and that one day I'll get to know what that reason was.

He's got a good medical team working on him, and he HAS NOT thrown in the towel. Knowing him, he never will. They're working on him to the best of their ability, so I ask for prayer.

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Monday, April 24, 2017, at 21:28:30 (ZULU)


Men, friends, and brothers:

With great regret, I want to inform you of the passing of Major Joe Mahon.

He fought the good fight right to the very end, selflessly giving of himself to help others.

I would be remiss if I didn't also mention that today was the birthday of his beloved late wife Angie as well.

He is loved by many, and many here as well, and will be greatly missed - this world is diminished by his absence.

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Wednesday, May 10, 2017, at 14:23:58 (ZULU)


R.I.P. Sir.

Thank you.

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Siloam Springs, AR, USA - Wednesday, May 10, 2017, at 15:04:08 (ZULU)


Sad day.  Thanks for telling us.

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OK, - Wednesday, May 10, 2017, at 16:19:39 (ZULU)



Folks, it's been a long long time and I wish I was returning to post under better circumstances.  Not only has this site been an amazing resource for people looking to shoot at a 10/10ths level, it has also introduced me to several really great quality people over the years.

Major Joe Mahon was one of them.  A lion among men, a Super Patriot and extremely intelligent warrior/poet, he became a close friend and mentor.  As it turned out we came from very similar backgrounds and so we found ourselves to hold a massive amount of similar beliefs about the world as a result.  We had a lot of great times shooting, deer hunting, putting dents in his truck, and engaging in discussions revolving around politics and current events, faith, and a lot more over the years.  We saw each other through a lot of good times and bad times as well.  He attended my second wedding....then later helped me through my second divorce!  We used to joke that we both suffered from "I can fix this" itis.  He and Angie attended my mothers funeral too...in between trips to the east coast facility and his regularly scheduled cancer vaccine treatments.  Even further, he introduced me to great people who became a core group of close friends, a couple of whom also have accounts here.....and have a similar amazing character.  And other people are coming out of the woodwork, saying the same.  He had that knack of building teams, just by being himself.....a natural leader.

When Joe called to tell me there was a new spot on his MRI, I was hopeful that due to his vaccine therapy, they would be able to build off it and head it off somehow.  It was not to be.  Without getting into too many details, the cancer came at him so aggressively that I think it took everyone by surprise.....except for him.  His first instinct was "better get a plan finished for the kids".  His medical team used the word "miracle" more than once.  This is a guy for whom courage, mission focus, and just plain sucking it up and fighting was truly second nature.  He gave the credit to God and Jesus.

I just wanted everyone here who never met the man to know that Joe was even bigger and better in real life than he was here, as the "real deal", on the internet.  This man loved America and her Founding Principles.....he served her (and the rest of us as citizens) and his family with his whole heart.  He loved his wife, doted on his kids consistently and always worked to give them the best he possibly could.  A better man any of us would be hard pressed to find throughout a well lived life.  There will be a lot of tributes to Joe, and based on his real life character, he deserves every single one and more.  Our lives and dare I say even America herself have suffered a great loss with his passing.    

IMO it is appropriate to post a tribute to the man on the website that I met him on.  Here's to one of the finest examples of a red blooded "God, Family, Country" American man that I've ever known.        

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AZ, USA - Wednesday, May 10, 2017, at 19:37:26 (ZULU)


There wasn't a person on earth that Joe wouldn't give a helping hand to. One Great Guy. Rest in Peace my Friend.

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Wednesday, May 10, 2017, at 20:51:22 (ZULU)


This is a sad day, I never had a chance to meet Joe in person and I regret not doing so especially living only a couple of hours away. I remember emailing with him while he was in Kuwait and and him talking about his kids, talking about how peanut liked balloons. I was driving through the area and he asked if I could put some balloons on his mailbox, it was my pleasure to help a friend who cared so much about his kids.

That is how I will remember Joe, a man that always thought about his kids no matter where he was.

RIP Joe.

JLU out

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Oconomowoc, Wisconsin, USA - Wednesday, May 10, 2017, at 22:49:25 (ZULU)



Well I to have some fond stories of Maj. Joe. We first met, along with Angie, at Badlands for some classes and serious shooting. We communicated numerous time while is was in the sandbox. When he came back to  the states I met him at Ft. Bliss and had he honor to buy him his

first stateside steak dinner. Last I saw Maj.Joe was as I escorted

him to his plane to fly home.

SIR you will be missed by a VERY large group of people!

RIP and have a a couple of drinks with Bruce when you see him!!!

Sarge

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Southern Area 51, NM, USA - Friday, May 12, 2017, at 00:41:35 (ZULU)


Very sorry to hear about Joe M.  You will be missed

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Annapolis, MD, USA - Friday, May 12, 2017, at 13:59:14 (ZULU)


Not a series of posts I wanted to read.  While we never personally met, we swapped quite a few messages.  He was a classy individual and will be deeply missed.

How's his family doing?

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Ladysmith, VA, United States - Wednesday, May 17, 2017, at 01:23:40 (ZULU)


Joe's funeral was fitting and well done, people showed up from all over the country.

He's resting in the Northern Wisconsin Veterans Memorial Cemetery in Spooner, Wisconsin.

And for right now, that's all I have to say about that.

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Monday, May 22, 2017, at 15:35:41 (ZULU)


Greetings Hawgs.

Prayers for Maj. Joe's family - RIP Sir!

Over the horizon, I will be kind of easing out of this hosting business. I've hosted SC since 1997/1998.  I'll of course archive the content and distro it amongst the hogs....

Kinda looking for idears... Now -- that being said...if someone out there wants to step up and take the helm... I'm open to discussion, idears, etc......

Just sayin....

Ken - out...

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Northern, VA, liberalism bleeding in from MD - Monday, May 22, 2017, at 18:06:28 (ZULU)


Ken, Thanks for all of your hard work for keeping this place running.

To the rest of the hogs:  Is there another site similar to this one?  I ask because if there is one (or even close) and Ken wants out of

hosting I suggest we let Ken off the hook and we let this place die.  If we all then go signup and start visiting another site perhaps we

can infect/commandeer/suggest until we make the next "home" like this one or closely enough.  Maybe we can get Ken to "give" them some of

our features like the "classifieds, etc." to a new host.

It would be like us infecting a new host in order to make it better

and to bring it "new blood".  The "new blood" being us and perhaps how we might influence others in their actions and thoughts.

 

What do others think? I know, I know...sort of like speaking blasphemy...forgive me.

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Newberg, Oregon, USA - Monday, May 22, 2017, at 22:53:20 (ZULU)


I recall talk of 'modifying' SC some years back.  But it seems all other site use 'threads' rather than our rambling discussing.  I doubt if they have changed..

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Boonies of the Panhandle, Texas, United States - Tuesday, May 23, 2017, at 13:29:55 (ZULU)



I remember the talk about changing the format.  It was shot down at the time because this group was flyin' everyday.  Stuff that was said here was quoted all over the internet.

But that was some 15 years ago, and things change, and we have changed as well.

The whole "Forum" format might have run it's course and burned out.

Over on Accurateshooter.com, from the early 2000's through 2013-ish 2014-ish, it was one of the hottest accuracy forums - their handloading section screamed by with very knowledgeable posters.  If you posted in a thread on Friday night, and went back on Sunday morning to see the responses, you would have to go back a few pages, cuz there were 100+ new threads.

It was populated by very knowledgeable loaders.

Now, you post in a thread, and come back in a week, and it is still on the front page, down maybe five threads.

A recent "HOT" topic they had in their handloading forum was "How do you remove the labels from the plastic Lapua boxes".  It ran about 4 or 5 weeks with ~70-ish conversations.  And stuff like, "I just bought a used 6.34x73mm WhizBang express wildcat longrange rifle from a guy online, but I tried to buy ammo at the LGS, and they never heard of it - where do I buy ammunition.".  

Accurateshooter is dying, and the knowledgeable posters have either been banned (cuz they didn't "Go along to get along"), or are leaving out of boredom.

Sniper's Hide went commercial, charged admission, and is now in it's death throws.

Another forum that I belong to, was very hot and active, and recently has had several threads about why no one goes there anymore... they have 4 or 5 regular posters - a thread will sit for a week or two before anyone responds to it - it used to be one of the hottest forums on the internet.

The pattern I have noticed is that good sites attract good operators, who talk and exchange info with each other, and kindly answer questions to the new kids... which attracts wannabees and newbees, who listen to the knowledgeable folks, and memorize what is said.

Then the wannabees and newbees start regurgitating what they have heard, cuz they wanna be seen and thought of, as "players"...

... but since they didn't understand what they have memorized, they comment on other people's questions out of context, food fights start, and the site owners (who usually don't know shit and are in it for the advertising dollars) kick the good guys off, because there is more money in the newbees... and the site goes into a terminal spiral... in a few years, it becomes nothing but kids who huff and puff, trying to impress each other.

I have seen this pattern over and over and over and over...

To paraphrase Yogi Berra, "Shooting forums used to be great, until all the newbee expurts came and made the great go away."

SC went the other way - back when we were hot, we kicked the bullshitters out right off the bat - you could ask questions, but if you were one of the wannabees who wanted to blow smoke and impress everyone, you ran into a brick wall, and you didn't last long.

People all over the internet quoted pieces of our "ramblings". :))))

Maybe we died because of our format, or maybe we died for lack of new blood - I know in my case, the legal problems with keeping my son just plain 'et up my life and left me in a shambles.  I am only now (after many many years), recovering from it.

I don't know what the solution is.  There may not be one.

Meowski

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Spring has sprung, Da' creek has riz, I wonder where dem kitties is? - Saturday, May 27, 2017, at 15:42:21 (ZULU)


What 'Lito says is so very true.  And yet there is one 'update' that I can give:

SnipersHide has gone back to the original site, and is no longer with the 'commercial' site.  That was a lesson learned, and a hard one at that.

At the same time, there are so many members there, whom are hoping/praying for the Older, Wiser, Experienced'er members to come back, because it's "back to the way it was to begin with" type of thing.

I remember the Duty Roster from back in the late '90s.  I won't deny that I miss that.  I personally can't tell ya'll how much I learned, and yet at the same time then "how much I didn't know".

Here, it is/was professional and technical.  There it was personal and social.

Myself, I got into F-Class because of this place.  I purchased my first GAP Crusader because of this place.  Achieved MUCH better reloading skills and products because of this place.

This Place being THE PEOPLE whom make/made up the membership here.  I know how much of an impact The Roster has made in my life in the past (almost) 20 years.  If I were computer-geek enough, and rothchild enough, then I would offer to take over.  Just for perpetuity.

But I know what I don't know, and can't afford to change my mind at the same time.  Therefore, that'd make me unreliable.  But that don't take away the wont.

Too many members from here, are no more.  Simple as that.

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Winnipeg, Manitoba, Canada - Saturday, May 27, 2017, at 16:45:22 (ZULU)


If someone wanted to create a free forum, I believe you can do it by opening a free google account under 'duty roster' or some other name  Then follow this instructional video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3m2Q6qcRSE

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Monday, May 29, 2017, at 03:32:44 (ZULU)


one more free option...

My fire station uses 'group me' for forum discussion, this is a forum which is both mobile and pc friendly.  No maint fee, the app may cost a couple bucks, I don't recall

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Monday, May 29, 2017, at 03:36:55 (ZULU)


Yeah, I know that I've been around here far too long to let it just slip away.

I checked a couple of weeks ago, and I've now got credit for 20 years where I work. That means the pension is all full. I was reading the roster back before I started working here.....

The other side of it is what 'Lito said - new blood is a boon and a bane, depending on how they're treated. And the fact that this is a "NO BS SAFE ZONE" is why I keep coming back here instead of the other places I used to roam.

If I knew what was needed to take this over, I might be able to do something - what kind of equipment are we talking about Ken?

Or is it more of a time commitment than needing equipment?

The fact of the matter is that we've got some OUTRAGEOUSLY great people that pop in here from time to time. Our society today has changed the definition of 'friend' due to stupid crap like facebook (which I'm proud to say I still don't do). But I've made some REAL friends here, and that alone is worth whatever I can do to help.

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Tuesday, May 30, 2017, at 14:27:48 (ZULU)


I have seen a few familiar names on ARFCOM, I go by SC4eyes there.

BUT there ain't here.

I will be here, until there is no more here.

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Siloam Springs, AR, USA - Sunday, June 4, 2017, at 16:47:44 (ZULU)


Apologies for weighing in so late...

Just read about Maj. Joe. Damn that really sucks. Thoughts and Prayers for the family. I had a chance to meet him once when he had some sort of function in the Milwaukee area but seeing it was a kinda family based thing I respectfully didnt go..  Think his son had just graduated boot.(?) I am thinkin now I missed a helluva chance to meet on of the really good guys.

With respects to the gun forums I am getting a sense they are all dying a slow death.I used to be a member of several including one or 2 that were in the UK,Now this is the only one I belong to and occasionally post on.

Almost a year ago, I was on my way to Iron Mt. Mich area for a family funeral.Hadnt even made it (5 miles) out of my home county and I am gettin puled over by a County Sheriffs Deputy...  I was speedin 65 in a 55. I admit it and he had every reason too pull me over. Usual questions... where ya goin, are you armed?

When I informed him I was (SA 1911 unloaded and cased) he asked if I had a CCW permit...No sir,hence the unloaded and cased firearm,and back to his squad he went to run my info. Comes back after 7-8 mins and hands me (to my surprise) a warning ticket and then assumed a very relaxed position in front of the drivers side window and we sat for the next 45 mins talking guns,the kind of hunting I do and the distances I shoot.

Once he learned I was hammering yotes at 400+ yrds he went into a full on You NEED to be on OUR side recruitment mode...And thats just how he said it too, You NEED to be on OUR side.The respect and the attention from the Deputy was kinda cool,and you could really see the disappointment in his face when I told him I have 2 strikes against me and would never be sworn in.(My age at 50 yrs and a knee with bone to bone arthritis.)

And then the Bullshit and Meltdowns started...Now,I start getting a sense of why that Deputy said what he said,along with how he said it.

Media being the media and sheeple being sheeple are believing every word,and the internet being the internet its not the"safest" (for lack of a better word)thing to be seen on forums putting up pics of targets or trophies or talking with others about fire arms... and people are more afraid than they ever were.

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too small, Confused, music - Sunday, June 11, 2017, at 21:01:50 (ZULU)


"With respects to the gun forums I am getting a sense they are all dying a slow death.  I used to be a member of several including one or 2 that were in the UK,  Now this is the only one I belong to and occasionally post on." - UnPat

What UnPat said.

Where I live, I am an outcast.  I own more than 50 guns (it used to be over 90)... and I think, eat and shoot guns (I also like naked women ;)

So, there ain't people to talk to, at least at my level.  In past years, the forums have been an important outlet, and a source of kindred souls.

I have made lifelong friends here and on some of the other forums - but that was in the past.

Some of you real ol' guys will remember "Doc King" who was a member of our motley group - he was a medic in the service.  He and another guy started LongrangeHunting.com back in May, 2001.

It was a great site - the guys on there were experts who shared information, and knew WTF they were talking about.  They actually owned the equipment they gave advice about (today, that is a rash and unreasonable expectation).

Now, it is a forum with questions like, "How do I clean my chamber", and answers by a bunch of newbees that are bullshitting each other, all trying to outdo the others in a pathetic game of "Keyboard Oneupsmanship".

I think the days of good forums are over.  I know other sharp guys from other places who are saying the same things.

The point of this ramble is this - if we were to move this site, and some of us (Bravo???) would keep it going, it would have to be run tighter than a ticks ass, with hard assed admins, or it would get sucked down the ever growing "forum black hole", by the arrogant new age of paper and keyboard experts... who know everything (cuz they read about it... somewhere), and can do nothing.

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Spring has sprung, Da' creek has riz, I wonder where dem kitties is? - Saturday, June 17, 2017, at 16:07:16 (ZULU)


10/4 on that. Kitty Wacker

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Saturday, June 24, 2017, at 22:29:58 (ZULU)


"Where I live, I am an outcast."-CatShooter

That is or seems to be the current trend of things,knowing that, I was kinda caught off guard when that Deputy wanted to sit on the side of the road and BS about guns.Which reminds I should give him a call. He gave some names of local ranges. I been here 4+ yrs now and no one knows anything. Strange part is, I hear gunshots now and then,so I know I am not the only one who shoots.I think most here just set up a temp 25 or 50 yrd back yard plinking range when they need too.

"it would have to be run tighter than a ticks ass"....  Agreed.

Keyboard warriors are not the only threat, tho. There is one case I know of where a person belonged to a 2A forum and was involved in a self defense shooting on city streets.Thru the broad scope of things the evidence wasnt limited to the immediate scene. Right,Wrong or otherwise the self defenders home was searched,his other firearms were confiscated and along with that his laptop/home computer. DA/CA used his past posts/comments from the forum,goin back over 5 yrs to establish there was enough to prove an intent for murder.I dont remember what the outcome of the trial was,other than some small details from him second hand,on how his comments long before he was involved in the self defence case,were used against him. And thats the kind of thing I had in mind when I made my comment about forums not being the safest. I sure would hate to see something similar happen to someone here.

Granted,We talk about alot of things here,not just guns,ranging from health issues to pick up trucks and for the most part I dont feel we have anything to hide.... saying that, I cant help but notice not a single comment about the Annual Shot Show. Hmmmmm... Busy people or people just not talking ??  Either way,maybe something along the lines of a private/locked or invite only kind of place using this current layout/format ??  I wish I were in a position to help out more here,and return favor from all the help and information that was given to me so freely.Sadly,its just not possible for me.

Is QuickLoad still the tool of choice? Anyone recommend something else that they have hands on knowledge with?

Yo Gargoyle !!! Round for the House.

Hope ya all have a Safe and Happy 4th !!!

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